Obama, Lula & DC Rally Tackle Today Sean Case, the US Boy Abducted to Brazil

correction---Bo

Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:57:15 +0100

David's name of Off ======== Bo, You are one amazing man. Sorry, but I am glad that you are giving your wife (ex?) and your daughter a chance to live in peace, while you aren't. As you said, love is selfless. It is a joke when people say " but he has been here for so long..." Let's see AES or anyone else: If someone killed one of your family members and later in life (50 years) later the police found the perpetrator, would you allow the person to walk away free? Or demand justice? Time is irrelevant in this case. Repeat the mantra, a crime is a crime, a crime is a crime. I wonder if the family was black and poor you would still say that Sean should stay in Brazil. You are all a bunch of hypocrites ! - Shelly1

Tatiana

Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:40:49 +0100

Do you have kids? Are you married to a foreigner and do you travel to visits Brazil? If you have kids, you will need to do several things prior to the child visiting Brazil. I will detail the plan, because I do have kids that were born in two different countries and an English husband. You do not have the whole picture. It doesn't matter if Bruna filed for divorce in Brazil, a divorce has to be recognized in BOTH countries to be valid. 1) If I want to travel to Brazil, I have to fill a form called "Autorizacao para viagem de menor" 2) The trip HAS TO HAVE A RETURN DATE, it cannot be open ended. The document it is ONLY valid for the duration of the trip. 3) On the document, the father's signature has to be notorized by a local country clerk and sign the document in front of the consular service. Both parents have to be present Bruna had a chance to talk to the consular service about her situation, what did she do? She kept quiet, lied to the Brazilian consulate, lied to David, and committed a crime. 4) Now you need a procuracao giving permission for a person (it doesn't matter who it is) to be legally responsible for a child while in Brazil, when Sean was abducted, this was not in place. 5) Bruna overstayed the agreed time. She also was already having an affair with Lins. 6) Bruna kidnapped her own son, it happens to be that Lins is a well know lawyer who has fought to end international child abduction ---Hypocrisy? 7) David NEVER gave Lins any authorization to adopt his son. Lins has tried to take David's name of the birth certificate, which is totally illegal. In Brazil, you CANNOT adopt a child in such manner. The father and mother have to abdicate his/her paternal/maternal rights. David has not given such permission or agreed to let Lins keep is son. 8) Why should David compromise when he and Sean are the victims? 9) Sean is living with criminals. The grandparents are criminals, Lins is also a criminal. 10) Was Bruna unhappy in the U.S.? Probably. Was Bruna suffering from postpartum depression? Probably. Did Bruna premeditate and committed a crime. Certainly. Bruna made a very bad decision. She is not a good mother, I would never take my kids away, even if it meant that my husband would have custody of the kids. She began the circus, not David. She is responsible for Sean's misery. David is doing what any loving father would do. There are two things American know how to do really well, philanthropy and mobilization to a cause. Brazilians are terrible at both. If you want to help the Brazilian father, do the same. Mobilize. Don't complain that Americans are behind David, take this as a teaching tool and campaign for the return of his daughters. I want to see you all campaigning to help a Brazilian--THAT WON'T HAPPEN!!! This is not a matter of USA vs. Brazil. This is a matter of doing what is right. - Shelly1

Let alone....

Sat, 21 Mar 2009 05:13:29 +0100

A country that is reported to have 70 american children only in the same situation. One would have to guess hundreds and hundreds if not thousands worldwide. But then again, Brazil never has been a stickler for human rights. - bo

Con't.

Sat, 21 Mar 2009 04:48:25 +0100

It was you, and João, and others, that were saying one, two months ago, "Well, this is a family matter, there's always two sides to the story". That may be right, most of the time, in this case there really isn't. It's a cut and dry case. And, this is not a "family matter" when you have a country or countries that are sanctioning and protecting and creating safehavens for the kidnappers of children......American children. I think it's hilarious when I read statements from the OAB and my neighbor Cezar Britto and he states how "terrible wrong and offensive the involvement of the U.S. gov't. and american media". What would Cezar and others with this point of view have one do? David Goldman has been fighting for FIVE YEARS! The U.S. gov't. has just gotten involved in the last 3 months! What should he do?? Keep quiet? Keep his mouth shut? The U.S. gov't. and state department shouldn't come to the aid of an american who's had his child illegally taken to another country? - bo

Bash Fest?

Sat, 21 Mar 2009 04:47:45 +0100

Never asked you to join in a brazil bash fest!! Much to the contrary!! Only have asked for you, and others, to ADMIT what brazil has done and is doing is WRONG!! But unfortunately for people like you, and many others, they then call it a "bash fest" and attempt to justify this behavior by saying, "but it happens in other countries too"....well, ok, yes it does, but not in epidemic proportions! There are numerous things I like about this country ASP, but one thing that astounds me is when a case like this, that is so black and white in the eyes of justice, and people try and justify it. "Oh, well that poor little boy, now he's been in Brazil for 5 years, he's already accustomed to life here and now he has a family here". Well, ok, so that's the justification we're going to use to sanction the kidnapping of children? So if I kidnap a child here in Brazil and return to the U.S. with him/her or any other country and avoid getting caught by the authorities for one, two, three years, here in Brazil that isn't a worry as when they locate you they say that they didn't, then the justice and people are going to scream for the child to stay in the country because he's already "adapted"?? What kind of actions/crimes are we condoning? Do you see what kind of torted logic that is or are you really someone that just can't be reached? My issue isn't the U.S. vs. Brazil here ASP, it's justice. You want to talk about the Iraq war, the sub-prime mortgage crises? Bernie Madoff or the military industrial complex? I'll be right there with you bashing the U.S. but I'm also going to be bashing the brazilian gov't. or judiciary when they allow atrocities like this (Sean Goldman case) to occur with REGULARITY and the abducting parents are subject to a policy of IMPUNITY. And that's the difference as well as the problem. You want to criticize the U.S. and you have justifiable reasons? I'll listen and agree and chip in my two cents and it won't be some lame attempt to justify their actions or if/when I discover your from another country I won't start to holler, "american hater". But then, when someone, specifically a GRINGO, criticizes Brazil, it doesn't matter if he's 100% justified, simply because he's a gringo people take offense!!! And if what I just said wasn't a certifiable fact they wouldn't make beer commercials on brazilian television about it!!! That's how well known it is concerning Brazil's blind "patriotism" and ignorance. THEY can complain about Brazil.....but let a foreigner? Can you see and admit what type of ignorance and arrogance that is? Now don't look for scapegoats, don't start searching for something that people in the U.S. do too that you're going to try to compare that behavior to to justify it......ok? As you have just stated, you believe that my whole emotional involvement in this case is because of my dislike or grievances with Brazil......you couldn't be more incorrect! If the situation would be in reverse and the U.S. gov't. would be allowing the parental kidnapping, and what has turned into outright kidnapping, then I would be in front of the capitol building in washington protesting! I have a daughter ASP, a little girl. And I have stayed here in Brazil for the last 7.5 years ONLY because of her. I would've much rather moved back to the U.S. I was in the midst of moving back when my daughters mother got pregnant. Although I am 100% convinced that my daughter would be better off growing up in the U.S. and the city where I'm from I did not kidnap her. I did not take her from her mother and her mothers family as she loves them. I could never do that to my daughter. I simply love her too much. Love is not selfish, it is quite the opposite, it's selfless. Unfortunately in this case of Sean Goldman we have seen the epitomy of selfishness. A woman that took her son from the only place he ever knew as home, away from his father that after being investigatied from asshole to appetite has found to be noting more than a loving father and devoted husband. But you see, Sean's mother was from the "carioca elite", in New Jersey she didn't have a maid to order around, she didn't have a driver, a gardener, a bodyguard. She took her son and kidnapped him to Brazil, a place where she well knew is a "safe-haven" for parental kidnappers. Brazil's participation in the Hague is simply "para os ingleses ver". - bo

your problem ,bo, is you are using this case to vent your frustrations with brazil

Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:42:28 +0100

where i have said that fundimentily i agree the boy should be with his father, you have to turn it into a brazil bash fest. you have real issues with brazil. if you need to come in here to vent , ok, but,dont expect me to join you in your bash fest. you even tried to imply i was some kiss ass because i wouldnt join you in a brazil bash fest , after i said good luck to you and your daughter you know,i love america, but hate a lot of americans. they come down here and just complain and complain and complain as though they are superior.they make no effort to learn about the culture or how things work. they expect things to work like where they came from. and 9 times out of 10 these same ass holes are the ones who say obama is a socialist...man i dont want to know them or have anything to do with them cant you say something good about brazil ? can you tell me something you like about brazil like the music, the food , the dance ? prostitution ? please, you dont know the world...it should be legal anyway robbery ? yeah its bad but my brother just got brutaly mugged in santa fe new mexico.the hell with moveing back to the states scared and then get mugged there slave labor ? the congo....how many clothes makers in the states use slave labor outside ? corruption ? cmon buddy, look what happened in the last 8 years in the states. its someof the most disgusting stomach turning crap that could happen to a people ...why arnt you and all these people here bitching about brazil go scream about that? your are the one that just doesnt want to get that things are dirty everywhere, in there own way you are putting a lot of emotion in this case and i am not investing much emotion in it let me tell you, i absolutly love it when i have a moment in a day where something happens or some cultural event or some food im eating or some day at the beach where i can say i would neveer have had a day like this in the states no im not joining you in a brazil bash fest. - asp

Freaking Jose Chris2 – Part 4

Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:00:54 +0100

Fellow ball jugglers! When not out pimping my sister for glue money, I'm selling my mulato ass to Swiss sex tourists to make s.h.i.tsicles, only later comes the skull f.u.c.king. Love you Ch.c! Kisses. I'm Carioca, eeesssssssshhhhhhhh by default I'm retarded, smarmy and I'll live with mommy until I'm forty. She brings in the big bucks giving trannies their first implants. Retarded step-father, kidnapped son and holy f.u.cking retarded nations - back on topic! God bless America Costinha Hehehe - ........

Federal Judge Interview Con't.

Fri, 20 Mar 2009 05:38:25 +0100

Em manifesto, uma pessoa compara o ‘caso Goldman’ ao de uma mãe em Porto Alegre com um pai em Tocantins. Será que casos internacionais são semelhantes ao exemplo dado? Esse é um argumento inteiramente desprezível do ponto de vista técnico. Mais uma vez, para defender o indefensável, o articulista usa categorias acessórias para justificar uma raiz temática que tem natureza distinta. Existem ordens que não se misturam. Nós estamos no plano internacional, e não no plano das questões pessoais. É preciso que isso fique muito claro. O padastro tentou tirar o nome do pai, e dos avós paternos da certidão de nascimento do garoto. Isso é cabível sob a lei brasileira? Ainda não. Mas essa tentativa é apenas uma entre uma enormidade de procedimentos arquitetados para garantir a permanência, mesmo indevida, do menor Sean no Brasil. Nesta quarta-feira, a Comissão de Constituição e Justiça do Senado aprovou projeto do deputado falecido Clodovil Hernandes que prevê exatamente a possibilidade de os enteados recepcionarem o nome de seus padrastos. Mas isso é uma lei ainda em curso. A lei brasileira não coagita desta possibilidade ainda. Será que a opinião do menino deve ser ouvida? A opinião do garoto será levada em consideração em foro adequado, em Nova Jersey. O juiz americano pode até decidir que o melhor para o menino é voltar para o Brasil. O brasileiro ainda não se acostumou a entender que esta história de ‘jeitinho’ só vale aqui dentro, lá fora não vale. Quais as consequências que o Brasil pode sofrer caso se negue a respeitar a Convenção? O país pode sofrer represálias dos demais países contratantes no sentido de não permitir a reciprocidade, ou seja, filhos nascidos no Brasil podem ser retidos no estrangeiro. Segundo, o Brasil pode sofrer uma denúncia em foro competente e ser excluído da Convenção por desrespeito. E pode ainda ver diminuída as suas chances de ganhar um assento na ONU. Mas por que a Justiça no Brasil ainda é tão morosa? A quem interessa essa morosidade? Nós ainda estamos cheios de subsistemas políticos, judiciais, de saúde, tudo, o Brasil ainda está muito ruim por causa disso. Nós ainda não nos elevamos ao patamar de uma democracia real justamente porque não temos educação continuada pra viver a cidadania plenamente. As cúpulas, os tribunais, os poderes políticos são preenchidos por este tipo de gente, que acaba formatando a estadização social brasileira. Isso está documentado por Sérgio Buarque de Holanda, Caio Prado Júnior, Roberto da Matta, Darcy Ribeiro, e tantos outros. - bo

OGlobo interview with a Federal Judge

Fri, 20 Mar 2009 05:37:05 +0100

Juiz: ‘O Brasil perde muito mantendo Sean no país’ Em entrevista exclusiva, o juiz Roberto Wanderley Nogueira ressalta as consequências que o desrespeito à Convenção de Haia podem trazer ao Brasil. Dr. Nogueira, que é juiz federal da 1ª Vara de Pernambuco há 21 anos, também trabalhou com casos de família quando atuou como juiz estadual. Ele só aceitou comentar o ‘caso Goldman’ porque o caso já está amplamente divulgado na mídia. “O que faz o governo brasileiro lavar as mãos como Pilatos diante desta responsabilidade e deixar de agilizar o ato de expatriação, administrativamente falando, do menor?,” questiona ele. Dr. Nogueira defende que se Sean Goldman for duplo-nacional, que ele seja repatriado aos EUA, usando-se a Autoridade Central do Brasil, que é o órgão dos Direitos Humanos do ministro Paulo Vannuchi. E se ele for só estrangeiro, como estaria em situação irregular no país, ele deve ser deportado. A criança viajou para o Brasil com a mãe, o uso da palavra sequestro é adequado? O nome da Convenção de Haia é ‘convenção para os aspectos civis do sequestro internacional de criança’. Embora esta carga criminosa da palavra sequestro não se aplique aos fins da Convenção de Haia, a ordem jurídica do Brasil não tem o direito de se escusar de avaliar se é o não caso de delinquência. Então, o comentário do presidente Lula – dizendo que o judiciário é independente – foi inadequado? O presidente Lula falou sem estar suficientemente assessorado. E muito menos com o conhecimento adequado da Convenção de Haia, que pede que o Estado parte atue tanto judicialmente quanto administrativamente. Então, não é verdade que a solução para esta causa se deva apenas à Justiça brasileira. O executivo brasileiro está em falta. Quando a mãe registrou a criança numa escola do RJ configurou intenção de mantê-la no país? Isso é evidente. Toda a inflexão argumentativa (da família brasileira) é inútil, não guarda compatibilidade com a teoria ou prática. Quer dizer, o menino tem que voltar. Se a família quiser discutir a guarda do menino deve fazê-lo em Nova Jersey, que é o local de habitação do menino na época da retenção indevida. A Justiça do RJ foi muito rápida em conceder a guarda provisória ao padastro? Normalmente essas ações de guarda são rápidas para resolver a situação do menor. No entanto, o juiz do Estado não está preparado para decidir sobre questões do direito internacional. E aí tratam como uma questão menorista, entre partes. O que tem sido irrelevante nos argumentos da família brasileira? Tudo. É só conversa mole para retardar o processo. A única coisa relevante está na carta do advogado (Ricardo Zamariola Jr.) que diz assim: “para solução desta questão deve-se investigar apenas se a remoção da criança (dos EUA) foi lícita ou ilícita.” Partindo-se do artigo 1º da Convenção de Haia, acabou-se o problema. E sobre a exceção prevista na Convenção para manter a criança no Brasil? Se o pai legíltimo, que sofreu os efeitos da retenção indevida do menor, não tivesse agido em até 1 ano da data de retenção, aí sim a guarda poderia ser provisoriamente mantida no país para garantir as urgências da vida do menino. Mas não é o caso. O Estado brasileiro deveria ter devolvido a criança, a qualquer custo, em até seis semanas, e isso não aconteceu. A Justiça deve considerar o quão difícil será a readaptação de Sean aos EUA? Isso deve ser debatido na Justiça norte-americana. Eu não faço proselitismo do norte-americano, até nem gosto muito dos EUA. Mas o que a Justiça brasileira está fazendo é se sobrepondo à autoridade do juiz natural, que neste caso é a Justiça americana. Após oa morte da mãe, será que David ganhou mais direitos de ter o filho? Do ponto de vista da Convenção de Haia, a morte da mãe é um dado irrelevante. Todavia, serve para agravar o aspecto “kafkiano” da retomada. O esforço se torna ainda mais cruel, dado que o pai biológico não tem acesso ao próprio filho pela obra de um padrasto. Mas esse não é o ponto essencial. O que importa é saber se o menino residia nos EUA quando foi retido indevidamente no Brasil. Sim, porque o conceito de sequestro para aspectos civis convenientes diz respeito ao sequestro, ou a retenção indevida no país para onde ele foi admitido. No caso, o menor seguiu em férias com a mãe, e não mais regressou, por iniciativa da própria mãe, o que caracteriza retenção indevida e aplicação automática da Convenção de Haia. - bo

ASP...."some men ya just can't reach"

Fri, 20 Mar 2009 05:32:41 +0100

[quote]bo, your answers to my statements just arnt satisfactory [quote] And that appears to be you. It appears that you have boughten into the "point my finger" culture and are one of the million here in Brazil that scream, "Well it happens in the U.S. too!" and there's your justification. If I've said it once I've said it a hundred times, just because robbery, murder, slave labor, prosituttion, and now government sanctioning of child abduction happens everywhere in the world, that doesn't mean it happens epidemic like numbers around the world.....as here in Brazil! Would you argue that the law is very weakly enforced here in Brazil? Would you argue that "jeitinho" is a terrible crutch to the country and these types of things, although happen in the U.S. and elsewhere, are EXCEPTIONS, and not the RULE, and that my friend is the difference! - bo

Freaking Jesus Chris2 – Part 3

Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:36:41 +0100

You're so cool… Did God give you an extra chromosome? I'm guessing that you were spawned from a mutated chromosome resulting from your father humping the decaying carcass of beached squid right before he humped your mother in a dumpster at the rear of Hooters two days before he committed suicide by bungee jumping off the Brooklyn Bridge without a rope. Son, as I said many times before…. Nobody can’t fake the funk. In name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, gAyMan. Hehehe Costinha PS: German huh… Leck mich am arsch, Arschloch! - .....

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, stranges things going on here

Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:31:53 +0100

I thought I made myself clear: "I, Costinha do Rio de Janeiro, LOVE, sucking c.o.c.k; the bigger, the thicker, the better" Best of yet I puked when I found that Ronaldinho's tranny had a bigger stub than the one I paid for and straddled. ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. F.u.c.k you monkey boy, and the German p.e.dophile you road in on. Hehehehe Luv ya, 3 times.... Costinha - ........

Did I ruffle your feathers, honey … Chris2 & 3

Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:40:16 +0100

Ohhh, I see…. You do have a deep throat and some talent to go with it, “I love sucking c.o.c.k,” as you mentioned! Just when I thought, "Surely, this person encapsulates the limits of human stupidity", you go and push the boundary a little further. You are an agitated gibbering banana-shaped dildo-sucking cum-farting babbling butthead. Suck on this (…..o…..) LUV U 2…. Costinha Hehehe - ....

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Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:27:01 +0100

I love you three In the name of the tranny, the trafficante and corrupt cop, aqui é Rio! I love sucking c.o.c.k Costinha Hehehe - .......

Freaking Jesus Chris2…

Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:58:31 +0100

I love you 2… I see, you like long thick bumpy bananas HuH ? In name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, gAyMan. Costinha Hehehe - ....

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Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:38:51 +0100

Costina or whatever you are, you're an ignorant fool. Your writings echo precisely the xenophobic, head-in-sand, make it up as you go along, tomfoolery and embedded Brazilian idiocy that Mr. Goldman has been battling in that Banana Republic for over 4 years. Only in Brazil would "feelings" and retarded "conspiracy theories" trump what's written in the "law" and what international treaties Brazil has signed. The letter of the law means nothing in Brazil (it's for the English to see), the constitution is meaningless, there are no reasons to try and interpret them or use them effectively in court (most lawyers don't even bother), because decisions are based on nationalistic whims, petty personal gripes and of course who has the fattest brown envelope to pass under the table; all factors which favor Sean's captors. That poor child is probably suffering from Stockholm Syndrome by now. Worse, in Rio the number one killer of teens is violent crime. Keeping him in one of the world's most violent cities certainly shows a lot of love and compassion from that dead "Maria passaporte's" parents. - Chris2

Sorry Folks…

Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:54:25 +0100

But I made my mind… I hope Sean Goldman stays in Brasil once and for all, where he is loved, cared for, and nurture as the child he is. In Brasil is the only family that boy has had and besides, Mr. David Goldman seems unstable as hell and not capable of keeping a job to support Sean, much less caring for the child. I believe that what David Goldman is seeking is plain “revenge” for what his former Brasilian wife, Bruna, did to him. He could not care for Sean the least as he shown the last 4 years, not visiting his son even when Sean’s maternal grandparents, were willing to pay for David’s incidental trip costs to Brasil. Getting the child back is David’s way of having the last word. Give me a break, Sean belongs in Brasil, with his loved ones! On second thought, let me take my “sorry” back! Luv U All, Costinha - .........

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Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:50:35 +0100

I don't want to comment on this issue, unless Ch.c comes out with his words of wisdom. :D - João da Silva

bo, your answers to my statements just arnt satisfactory

Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:25:02 +0100

not only that , ive heard more than a few cases of brazilian children mixed with another nationality being kidnapped by that nationalities parent..and they get support from their perspective government not making it easy for the brazilian parent to get their child... these international cases just go on all sides , i dont buy your singleling brazil.and i bet the usa has cases where the american parent has some kid of dual nationality and the beaurocracy is tying it up for the other parent to see him. the usa is just no shining angle, its got its flaws in all areas just like anyone else. i mean immigration and natrualisation is a bitch , ive heard horror stories over and over again about them , and fear them myself in reguards to my family...i sure know they will never cut us a break - asp

A Bible Thumper, is he?

Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:59:34 +0100

Bo(bão), the convicted child mol.ester, now taking refuge in religion for all his sins. You are done and out, b.i.t.c.h.! Bo(bão), you are proof that evolution does go in reverse. Yours truly, Costinha - .....