Comments for Brazil's Carandiru Massacre: 111 Dead, 13 years, No One Guilty at http://www.brazzilmag.com , comment 0 to 9 out of 9 comments http://www.brazzilmag.com Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:10:01 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.2 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/5660/1/#pc_2539 I came across this site while researching genocide in Brazil for a presentation, and I have to say that Ubiratan Guimarães should not have been granted impunity from his 632-year sentence in prison. His acts may have been justified (although I disagree), but murdering 111 people, being sentenced, and let off scot-free just doesn\'t seem to do the trick, in my opinion. In the face of genocide, the Brazilian government has been known to look the other way when confronted with perpetrators of genocide, a practice that has cone on too long. Althought the Carandiru Massacre is not recognized as a genocide, it is incredibly necessary that its importance be recognized. - Guest Tue, 07 Mar 2006 20:34:16 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/5660/1/#pc_2479 I don\'t care who you are or where you are from. You are entitled to your opinion, so i\'m entitled to mine. Different viewpoint and angle as Brazil is a twilight world. I meant, not everything in Brazil is about sun, sea and sex . Pick sense out of nonsense? - Guest Wed, 01 Mar 2006 13:07:50 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/5660/1/#pc_2469 I\'m sorry but you are plainly off-key here. Of course it\'s about sun, sea and sex. That\'s how Brazil is popularly conceived of and promoted as a tourist destination of choice. Tourists don\'t come here for high culture, you know. Just because a few go through the motions of being appalled by unenviable social conditions doesn\'t mean they care, well not long term anyway. Ever felt sorry for a down-and-out? Of course you have. Ever done anything to substantialy change his/her life for the better? Of course not. As for food poisioning (or the common D&S), it was clear that I think you make far too much of it, not that it doesn\'t exist.Lastly, human rights issues are a concern in Brazil, but some other countries are far, far worse, hence the mention of Africa as a comparison, which is openly abysmal and lawless at a fundermental level. Go and see for yourself. I have.Then tell me how shocked you are about Brazil. And like Brazil it\'s very rich in resources and quite capable of addressing its corruption problems. However, just two further points to close, I am a British ex-pat who lives here and in answer to your rather childlike original question \"Why would anyone who is not corrupt want to live in an undemocratic country such as Brazil, it is outrageous [?]. The reason is sun, sea, and sex, just like I implied in my post. Got it sport? - Guest Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:18:39 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/5660/1/#pc_2478 Firstly, not all tourists are shallow or superfical, some actually do care about what happens in the countries they visit and are appalled upton their return. Secondly, if you read some of the posts on this site, there is mention of food posioning so this should be addressed by the health & safety board to keep vendors on their toes. Prevention is better than a cure. Thirdly, the human rights issues are known worldwide and there are many people who are appalled by this even if people like you think it\'s fine. That is your choice. Don\'t bring Africa into this debate, this is not an African forum. I was talking about Brazil, a country rich in resources that is capable of addressing these issues effectively so no need to deviate. Africa will get its time!!!! I have to say,\'he/she who does not offend cannot be honest\'..... - Guest Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:16:03 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/5660/1/#pc_2416 So 111 drug dealers, murders, pimps, and assorted low-lives were killed. What of it, exactly? They were engaged in prison mutiny, and probably armed with improvised weapons. What on earth did they expect to happen? They surely didn\'t expect the police to saunter in and sing songs with them. And I suspect the only evidence that was offered against the police, was the testemony of a bunch of inmates -- not very reliable, is it? - Guest Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:52:14 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/5660/1/#pc_2519 Please grow up. Firstly, tourists are very unlikely to see the inside of a Brazilian prison, so why should they care what happens inside them. Secondly, tourists don\'t give a Frenchman\'s foreskin about the living or working conditions of the people in the countries they visit: they are there to have a good time and that\'s all there is to it. Nothing wrong with that, in fact, it\'s not their problem. As for your comment on the imagined, more than real, dangers of \'food safety\', I\'ve lived and worked in Brazil for ten years and so far haven\'t suffered from any bouts of D&S. The last time I got a case of the quick-shits was back in London. Lastly, as for Brazil being lawless and run in an abysmal way, have you been to any African states lately? If you want to see abysmal and lawless, take a trip there. - Guest Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:18:21 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/5660/1/#pc_2531 This is an abomination. What kind of society is this? Why would anyone who is not corrupt want to live in an undemocratic country such as Brazil, it is outrageous. I have read only recently that the ministry of tourism is going to spend over $100,000,000 on promoting tourism to Brazil - but for what? What services are they going to provide for these tourists? Will they be protected and their safety guarenteed? How about health, hygiene and food safety? If anything untoward were to happen to these tourists, would they be compensated and within a reasonable time limit? It is clear Brazil wants to attract as much tourists to this country as possible but has it thought about the consequences of mass tourism and will it be able to cope with it efficiently? Tourist\'s will not tolerate the sub standard treatment which is given to most Brazilians and neither should they, especially when spending their hard earned cash. If Brazil is run in the abysmal way which has been described, and anyone needs help from any of Brazils government bodies. Heaven help them if everything appears to be disguised, manipulated and hidden. Brazil is a fragmented lawless society and is worthy of condemnation. - Guest Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:24:18 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/5660/1/#pc_2472 ...FAR MORE THAN 111 HIGH LEVELS POLITICIANS CORRUPTED TO THE ROOTS ! NO ONE GUILTY AND IN JAIL ! ...FAR MORE THAN 111 LARGE LANDOWNERS HAVING SLAVES ¨ NO ONE GUILTY AND IN JAIL ! ....FAR MORE THAN 111 KILLINGS OF INNOCENTS BY BRAZILIAN POLICE !!! NO ONE GUILTY AND IN JAIL !!! ....FAR MORE THAN 111 KILLINGS OF POORS WITHOUT LAND BY LARGE LANDOWNERS\"!!! NO ONE GUILTY AND IN JAIL !!!!!! VIVA BRAZIL !!!!!!! THE GREATEST UNDEMOCRATIC COUNTRY, WITH THE GREATEST INJUSTICE.....ON THIS PLANET !!!! A SHAME TO HUMANITY, WITH A TOTAL LACK OF RESPECT TO THEIR OWN SOCIETY ! IN BRAZIL EVERYTHING CAN BE BOUGHT WITH MONEY, SUCH AS IMPUNITY, KILLINGS AND EVEN ELECTIONS WITH VOTE BUYING. EVEN BRAZILIAN ELECTORATE IS BEING BOUGHT BY POLITICIANS AT EVERY LOCAL OR FEDERAL ELECTIONS. LOCAL AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS JUST MULTIPLY SPENDINGS...BUT ONLY DURING ELECTION YEARS ! THEY THEN SAVE MONEY WITH AUSTERITY BUDGETS....FOR 3 YEARS....UNTIL THE NEXT.... ELECTIONS ! EVERYTHING IS DISGUISED, MANIPULATED, HIDDEN\"!!!! - Guest Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:24:08 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/5660/1/#pc_2466 No one guilty, agian.... what is new? Everyone in Brazil, including the world knows about these attrocious acts which are commited on a yearly basis, but no one, as usual, is ever brought to trail and sentenced. What signal does this send out to the Brazilian public? What does this say about the Brazilian justice system which appears like something similar to a kangeroo court? There appears to be no examples and no deterrent. This is laughable, but NOT funny. Writing these articles are informative/ shocking, but Brazil is just going around in circles if no one is ever punished or accountable for these crime. - Guest Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:28:10 +0100