Comments for Brazil Celebrates in Paris 100 Years of Aviation Father's Demoiselle Flight at http://www.brazzilmag.com , comment 0 to 20 out of 29 comments http://www.brazzilmag.com Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:20:47 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.2 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8038/54/#pc_8083 THE PUMA BY BRAZILIAN VW, THE SP-1, THE SP-2, THE MUIRA, THE GURGEL, THE SELVAGEN, THE BANDEIRANTE 4X4, THE JAVALI 4X4, TROLLER, ENGESA EE4, ENGESA 4F II, FNM TRUCKS ETC ETC ETC…LET A LONG ALL THE BRAZILIAN ENGINES RUNNING EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD… THE ENGINES FOR THE NEW MINI’S ARE ALSO MADE IN BRAZIL… SO TO SAY THAT BRAZIL DOESN’T MANUFACTURE CARS IS JUST PLAIN IGNORANCE DON'T YOU AGREE? WHEN IN FACT BRAZIL HAVE BEEN DESIGNING AND MANUFACTURING THEIR OWN CARS AND PARTS SINCE THE GETULIO VARGAS INDUSTRIAL BUILD UP. MANY OF THE VW CARS WERE DESIGNED AND DEVELOPED BY BRAZILIAN DESIGNERS AND ENGINEERS AND THAN EVENTUALLY IN GERMAN. - Jony Thu, 22 Mar 2007 02:04:54 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8038/54/#pc_8018 Very interesting mathematical view, I must pass this along to my students. Not with Mr. Ch.c inclusion, of course. It seam to me that the subject is drowning on his own, needing no help from my students. Great problem solved. (smiles) - Robert berk, ph.d Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:30:15 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8038/54/#pc_8009 laugh laugh laugh... It looks like everybody has your number now Ch.c. You are offending a whole new generation out there!!! Laugh laugh laugh!!! Why don't you tell him how great the Swiss Aeronautics really is…laugh laugh laugh… GREAT TECNOLOGY!!! FOR CROP SPRAYER FARMERS!!!! Laugh laugh laugh - laugh laugh laugh Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:38:41 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8038/54/#pc_8008 written by Just a brazilian student., 2007-03-18 02:11:51 A Conundrum to a smart Swiss: Dear Ch.c, I was told that you are a very smart man… much smarter than the inferior non-Swiss monkeys inhabitants of the south hemisphere. So please help me to solve this mathematical conundrum that lets say you are directly involved with. The Problem: (Your problem) Your wife is 21 years older than your daughter. In 6 years from now your wife’s age will be 5 times greater than the age of your daughter. The question for you Mr. Ch.c is WHERE WERE YOU MR. Ch.c ??? If I may Mr. Ch.c, this is how the monkeys you are referring at the I.T.A., mathematically Solved Your Problem. Solution: Analytical Analysis Today: Your wife is “Y” years old today. Your Daughter “x” years old today Therefore with your wife 21 years older:------------------- Y=X 21 In 6 years from now:------------------------------------------(Y 6) and (x 6) So with your wife 5 times the age of your daughte:-------Y 6 = 5 (X 6) Solving your problem Mr.Ch.c : Y 6 = 5 X 30 Y = 5X 24 Substituting for the first equation: Y = X 21 You will have: 5X 24 = X 21 So Mr.Ch.c: - 4X = 3 X = -3/4 So then your Daughter age today is (-3/4) years, or (–9) months. Mr.Ch.c the logical explanation is that: If your Daughter is minus 9 months today and she will be born in nine months, that means she is being conceived today and we know that you are in the computer bashing brazil right now, hence Mr. Ch.c. unfortunately for you and fortunately for your daughter…YOU CAN NOT BE THE FATHER. - Swiss pride!!!??? Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:27:42 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8038/54/#pc_7991 Bill Lear developed the Lear Jet from a Swiss fighter-bomber, for which not only blueprints but hard tooling existed, designed a passenger-carrying fuselage, and the rest is history. So the Swiss have been in serious aviation work for some time. Its very name defines business jets, in the same way that Piper Cub defines light aircraft. - Ric Sun, 18 Mar 2007 00:06:17 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8038/54/#pc_7977 Joke #1 Switzerland has been named as the World Most Competitive country! Sorry for all of you A. Most competitive on what?? Swiss knifes??? Give us some example of your competitiveness in the European arena …I will let you pick the product!!! But please no more watches or Swiss knives pleeeeeeeassseeeeee!!! Laugh laugh laugh…. Joke #2 Switzerland has been named second for the liveliest country! Sorry for you all ! A. What does that means…liveliest??? Humm the Second??? I guess that makes Iraq the First, using your methodology…. Deeply depressed decadent society on Prozac…wow you really know how to party …Laugh laugh laugh be serious ch.c !!! Joke #3 On a per capita basis, Switzerland exports are 25 times LARGER A. 25 times larger than what??? Exporting what??? To where??? Keep it in mind that using “per capita” in your country is quite misleading to say the least!!! Here we go again…your own "government statistics" says that 3% of the population in Switzerland owns 95% of the wealth in the country!!! So, using per capita is just playing silly games isn’t it? - your doughter in toronto! Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:01:22 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8038/54/#pc_7955 Your analysis and conclusion is not necessarily the one Americans have on who invented Aviation !!!!! Sorry for you...wether it pleases you or not ! Ohhhh...and personally I really dont care who invented it and wether it was Santos Dumont or the Wright Brothers. For me it is far more important of who developed and develops and will continue to develop this industry, such as Boeing or Airbus, not brazilian companies...to my knowledge !!!!!! Exactly the same could be said for cars. What I know that there are car manufacturers in some countries, such as in EU, America, Japan, South Korea, BUT that there is NOOOOOO Brazilian car manufacturer....100 % being foreigners !!!!!!!!! - ch.c. Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:54:18 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8038/54/#pc_7952 - Sorry, please re-read the sequence of this forum. I was NOT the one starting to compare poverty between the 2 countries. The article and my comments were on aviation not on poverty ! Thus feel free to accuse who started the poverty comparison...but not me ! - you seem to be quite new on this forum, not me ! It happens that I was first called Idiot by brazilians on my comments ! Thus why would it be ok from one side...and not the other ? - As to Embraer, you also were not in preceding articles and forums, where some of the members insisted that 100 % of the planes were made with Brazilian technology ! - As to Pilatus, you are referring to, did you ever once heard from me or from anyone that it was a 100 % Swiss technology ? Not to my knowledge. - As to my rudeness.....what is more rude in your French analysis....calling someone idiot.....or Fuck Bush, Americans are Nazis ?????? Far worse has been written against Bush and the USA ...from Brazilians! If every Brazilian are free to such insult...are the others not free to write the word idiot, much softer in the tone ? Your answer will be appreciated. Anyway, welcome to this forum ! Smile . - ch.c. Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:31:42 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8038/54/#pc_7945 Troller has recently been bought by Ford, but is a Brazilian design and a Brazilian company. - Ric Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:12:19 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8038/54/#pc_7935 Dear Ch c. (sorry for not calling you with your name, it seems that you prefer to remain anonymous) My name is Florent DePaepe. I am French, not Brazilian, not Swiss, not American. Why are you so rude, calling the others idiot, junkies and all sort of fancy names ? If you are right in what you're saying, you don't need to offend people like that... Well, maybe it is because you are not right ... may be ? Instead of comparing poor people in Brazil and in Switzerland (mates, how did you reached such a silly comparision ?), lets go back to the starting point: Embraer has never claimed they were producing 100% of their aircraft. The journalist said it, not the manufacturer ... What they did instead was asking to those who had the expertise in designing wings do do the wings. To those experts in designing the fuselage, to do some parts of the fuselage. What's wrong with this ? The aircraft has been conceived and designed in Brazil, by a team of international engineers. And that's exactly what Airbus is now doing (listen carefuly to what Louis Gallois, Airbus President, has declared on CNN and BBC two weeks ago about what Airbus should learn from Embraer ...) and this is exactly what Boeing is doing (Kawasaki will be producing the 787 wings ... as they are doing the wings for Embraer as well) And, by the way, look at how the Pilatus PC-12 is produced ? You'll find suppliers from France, UK, USA, Ireland, Portugal and would be amazed to see that some are also suppliers to Embraer. Cars, you mentioned cars ? Sorry Ch c. but you are wrong again. There is no more national brand indeed in Brazil, but the country produces cars that are developed and produced only in this country and that are now exported. They have acquired an incredible reputation for developing engines which works on ethanol. Are you aware that the Peugoet and Renault "Flex" engine which will be mounted in the new-generation cars produced in France, and which will be burning ethanol, are coming from ... Brazil ? Do you know as well that Brazil is not importing oil anymore and is now self-sufficient since December 2006 ? Now, last but not least: Brazil has managed to reach the third rank in the commercial Aviation industry with wise decision and determination from its governement and the Brazilian engineers. They built their first aircraft, the Bandeirante, 37 years well before Airbus (which was not existing by the way) and this aircraft was 100% Brazilian as was the second one, the Ipanema (with the exception of course of the engine and avionic which no aircraft manufacturer produce today) So, again, express you opinion in a polite way, unless you need to be rude to cover your ignorance. Debates are, most of the time, very useful ... when they involve educated people who learn from each others. At least you have managed to create a very interesting debate here, with all these people exchanging their point of view. So, carry on, but do respect the others mate ! Cheers, Florent - Florent Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:58:21 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8038/54/#pc_7933 Keep it very quiet, 12 000 miles far away in the South Pacific, at bottom of the world. An admirer of Santos Dumont Year 1898 was building a Santos Dumont D Dion I C engine. It is still here overlooked and forgotten. Thebuilder to remain mopstly unknown fo at leasy half a century , was it appears to be one person who designed and built his aircraft. Making a number of straight flights. Year 1903When one is seathed enjoyingnthe warm air conditioned comfort of todays modern jet airliners Wined dined and tucked in for a 500 miles an hour glide far above the clouds. Down through a break in the clouds, to see the hostile terrain over which Marco Polo on his elephant plodded if he was lucky sometimes reaching ten miles an hour, My admiration to the Father and daughter who have recreated and can fly the the 14 bis. Google tells all aviation rodliffe.. - C G Rodliffe AMRAeS Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:09:30 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8038/54/#pc_7932 doubtful that 850'000 swiss are living below USD 2.- per day and that one Swiss is starving !!!!!!!!! Even if ONE HAS NO job, NO social security of whatever......the government will give a subsidize of around US$ 1500.- monthly......FOR LIFE...TO EVERY CITIZEN !!!!!!!! AND comparing with YOUR SMALLEST STATES IS A BAD TRICK ! Typically Brazilian style to hide reality or manipulate numbers and stats !!!! At the end just look as I did in the various World Comparative Rankings from various sources such as the WB, WEF, IMF, etc etc At least they compare every country with the same stats and the same base !!!!!!! - ch.c. Fri, 16 Mar 2007 06:26:01 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8038/54/#pc_7930 Of course....the site address given is correct. Most of the details given have been copied and pasted ! I just checked again and it works, there is no problem. - ch.c. Fri, 16 Mar 2007 06:17:14 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8038/54/#pc_7928 so bad....as you say....... - that the world is buying Swiss Army Knife ! Laugh ! -;))) are americans and brazilians UNABLE to manufacture quality knives ????? smile - when you produce for exports or not 1 ton of corn, sugar or soya, we produce 1 small item weighting 100 grams : watches ! If this is low technology why none of you can produce competing products ????????? laugh In my view : "Swiss made" is a world recognized QUALITY...commanding a premium selling price !!!!!!!! Thus we stamd that label on our goods! Are " American made" or "Brazilian made" products recognized as QUALITY products....COMMANDING A PREMIUM OR DISCOUNT PRICES ???? Thus why dont you stamp your products with that label ??????? laugh....laugh....laugh !!!!!!! Afraid that few will buy these products....comparing them to.....CHINESE MADE PRODUCTS ??????? Thus even in technology we beat America and Brazil.....hands down and hands up !!!!!!! Again....dont be so jealous, stats and comparatives rankings put us at the top and not the BOTTOM !!!!!! LAUGH....LAUGH....LAUGH ! - CH.C. Fri, 16 Mar 2007 05:44:55 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8038/54/#pc_7926 - on a per capita basis, Swtzerland export 25 TIMES more than Brazil ! Sorry fopr you idiots ! - on a per capita basis, Switzerland export FAR FAR MORE than the Americans idiots ! sorry for you !!!!! - on a GDP per capita, we easily beat the USA by a wide margin. And comparing to Brazil, by far far far more ! And this is wether you like it or not. So are the officials stats...not mine !!!!!! Our currency has been strong for the last 3 decades, while the USA currency has been weak. Even worse for the Brazilian currency !!!!!! Same for inflation ! In view of the above, it looks like that our technology is not really the one of WW2. We were not even at war, if you have the slightest basic education !!!!!!!! In my view based on official stats and rankings done by International Agencies (Not by me) WE BEAT AMERICA HANDS DOWN...AND BRAZIL HANDS UP !!!!! Yesss......dont be so jealous ! Numbers, stats speak better than words....especially when they come from idiots and junkies from this site !!!!!!! - CH.C. Fri, 16 Mar 2007 05:25:04 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8038/54/#pc_7925 - Switzerland has been named as the World Most Competitive country ! sorry for all of you ! - Switzerland has been named second for the most liveliest country ! sorry for you all ! - On a per capita basis, Switzerland exports are 25 times LARGER - CH.C. Fri, 16 Mar 2007 05:11:35 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8038/54/#pc_7924 but it look like the" monkeys"(as you say) have the avionics... and you DON'T!!!! LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH - the great swiss Air industry Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:50:10 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8038/54/#pc_7923 starving and below the poverty level. So you now say hahhhhhhh the swiss poverty level is much better than the brazilian poverty level, right? We the swiss have the best poverty levels in the world!!! Second to none!!! Our precision is in the quality of poverty not in the quantity...furthemore we the swiss as the world is quite aware have *blue eyes* poverty you don't have... we the swiss have the *silk blond hair* poverty!!! You don't have... so I rest my swiss case!!! Laugh laugh laugh!!! - the great swiss Air industry Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:47:12 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8038/54/#pc_7922 So lets be precise like the swiss laugh...your population is 7,523.934 and you have 850,000 people starving and below poverty level. Brazil population is 182,032.604. So 7,523.934 ---- 850,000 in Switzerland 182,032.604---- ( x ) ( x ) = 20,564,735 million people in brazil That would be the equivalent of brazil having the entire states of: Alagoas-----------------2.822 million Sergipe ----------------1.784 million Espirito Santo--------- 3.000 million Rio Grande North-----2.77 million Santa Catarina---------0.536 mIlion Brazilia F.D. -----------2.05 million Mato Grosso S.---------2.07 million Roraima-----------------0.324 million Piaui---------------------2.843 million - the great swiss Air industry Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:37:31 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8038/54/#pc_7918 Good gracious!! You were not kidding? This is like Embraer on its first day. I would agree with the notion that this is WW2 technology. The site address you have given however it is not correct, but you can google any of those companies. Thank you Keith Lamary , Forth Worth, TX - Keith L. Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:31:08 +0100