Comments for Brazil Air Force Blames US Pilots and Controllers for Amazon's Air Tragedy at http://www.brazzilmag.com , comment 0 to 20 out of 22 comments http://www.brazzilmag.com Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:02:02 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.2 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8709/54/#pc_11541 Agência Estado A year having passed since the collision between the Legacy jet and the Gol Boeing, which killed 154 people on September 29 of last year, the official Air Force documents produced until now on the investigation leave no doubts: despite the controllers performance having been a "contributing" factor in the accident, the "determining" factor in the tragedy was really the two North American pilots Joseph Lepore and Jan Paul Paladino. - Agencia Estado Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:49:41 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8709/54/#pc_11453 You are the one flying for ;eanuts not me. I'm not some sleazebag charter guy like you or work for one like excelaire I work for a reputable owner. Plus, at least I'm in a hole not under a rock like you and your ilk. Go put on your little pilot uniform with your epaulets and pretend you are somebody important to make yourself feel better. - realgivp Mon, 08 Oct 2007 23:58:41 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8709/54/#pc_11447 Well, OK, but as soon as you finish it you have to go back into your hole until it´s time again to start punching holes in the IFR for peanuts. - Ric Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:22:55 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8709/54/#pc_11442 And why don’t you go take your Zyprexa, Seroquel, Aricept and go back to shilling for the next fly by night operator. I haven’t started any of this but by God I will finish it. - realgivp Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:16:42 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8709/54/#pc_11434 Got it off your chest? Then back into the woodwork with you. Get along, now..... - Ric Mon, 08 Oct 2007 01:33:39 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8709/54/#pc_11400 that you are not a pilot. So it's just trying to figure out which one you are.... Dave. George. Bob. Greg. My wife's bet is Dave as we heard you are a weasel. And I heard you have the short boy syndrome. - realgivp Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:27:47 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8709/54/#pc_11399 next time the coyote brings you across the border…..time and place - realgivp Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:17:08 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8709/54/#pc_11397 Forgot to thank you GIV for the compliment. Good to know I'm fully capable, competent, experienced at, etc., etc., in providing services to pus-E's when such is necessary or desired. The name fits well as I'm a giver not a taker. (Don't mistake that for M'Giver which I've also been called by folks down there for my prowess in making do with what's available to fix shit up - elect, plumbing, carros, electronics, f-d up limbs, etc., etc.) Story is so old I don't recall much, were the ferry pilot's long term Excelaire employees proper or just temp hired guns like yourself? - Simpleton Fri, 05 Oct 2007 01:11:56 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8709/54/#pc_11396 For cleaning that out. It's a dirty job but someone with your experience always seems to get such asninenment! Plenty of illegals on both sides would happily underbid you for it though. - Simpleton Fri, 05 Oct 2007 00:41:54 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8709/54/#pc_11388 Hey douche bag, sorry but that was not my post above. The article confirms everything I have said in all my posts. There is plenty of blame to go around. But the people getting away with no blame is Excelaire. The article highlights the lack of training given to the pilots by excelaire. Nothing different then what I've said all along. - realgivp Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:34:01 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8709/54/#pc_11373 Yes, unconscionable things have occurred. The pilots will be rapped and the controllers will be reproached. So why does this make your conscience burn? (I'm not for flag burning and in particular, not theirs - wouldn't suggest it either as the consequences are likely to be much harsher than what you've faced burning your own.) - Simpleton Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:44:43 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8709/54/#pc_11372 Oh, yes, shame on me indeed. Your invective skills are OK but hackneyed. By the way, who was bragging? Missed that. Research? This story is no longer news. You don´t use English like an American. You don´t spell like an American. You don´t punctuate like an American. Give it up, loser. - Ric Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:28:52 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8709/54/#pc_11363 These two pilots should be in jail!!!!!! Thanks to the Brazilian “impunity” they were allowed to fly away!!! Forrest Brown you are one of the most stupid human I know, and I know Ric and Ch.c and simpleton !!! Read the facts jackasses and put this flag worship bullshit up in the ass !!!We have nothing to brag about in this accident. Ric istead of questioning who he is, you should do you own research... or do you think that your stupid answer outomatically voids all the real fact out there... shame on you. - An American, of conscience Tue, 02 Oct 2007 04:04:40 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8709/54/#pc_11362 Should have turned it over to the Pakistanis before bringing it to Brazil. I'd count on the fact that the smart folks there would have rebuilt it first! - Simpleton Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:46:31 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8709/54/#pc_11361 The plane in question was sold by airbus to a carrier operating out of L.A., who passed it on to the Vietnamese, who passed it on to TAM. - Ric Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:16:22 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8709/54/#pc_11359 [quote]how about the plane in sao paulo no report other than the airport was wet and the french did not make it clear not to fky a broke plane [/quote] The French (and the Dutch) alsways sell broken planes to TAM. ;D btw, I loved your expression "Broken plane". It is absolutely funny. I hope you are not anti French >:( - João da Silva Tue, 02 Oct 2007 01:07:48 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8709/54/#pc_11358 how about the plane in sao paulo no report other than the airport was wet and the french did not make it clear not to fky a broke plane - forrest Brown Tue, 02 Oct 2007 00:42:39 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8709/54/#pc_11352 For that matter, who are you? - Ric Mon, 01 Oct 2007 11:44:05 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8709/54/#pc_11350 CENIPA took most informative elements from the “Report on the Facts by Investigation Specialists”, registered under number DCA06RA076A, of the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB). The NTSB is an independent American Federal agency that investigates every civil aviation accident in the United States of America and significant accidents in the other modes of transportation. It also conducts special investigations and safety studies, and issues safety recommendations aimed at preventing future accidents.The task of transcribing the Legacy’s black Box was conducted by a team composed of a chairman and three members: - Albert G. Reitan, Transportation Safety Specialist (CVR), National Transportation Safety Board (chairman of the group); - Steven M. Demko, Air Safety Investigator, National Transportation Safety Board; - Tony James, Air Safety Investigator, Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) which is part of the United States Transportation Department; and - Greg Brinkman, Chief Operating Officer, ExcelAire Service, Inc. The North American nationality of the entire team should be brought out and the participation of an employee of ExcelAire itself, which, in this case, attests to the credibility and exemption of the report in question, especially in terms of what is says about the circumstances which touch the Legacy pilots, both equally North American. HOW MANY TIMES ARE THEY GOING TOO POINT THE FINGER AT SOMEONE ELSE? Who are THEY? Who are SOMEONE ELSE? - NSTB Mon, 01 Oct 2007 01:22:34 +0100 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/8709/54/#pc_11346 Did you notice the tone and the use of the subjunctive? "....suggest that the Legacy´s two American pilots and the Brazilian controllers should be blamed....". "....would discard the theory....". Remember that this is a carefully drafted report. Is that the kind of language one uses when one actually has a strong case? "Rapped"? On the knuckles with a ruler? Or put into a hip-hop style cd? Or we need to invest in better translations? Dunno. - Ric Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:14:34 +0100