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Venezuela's Chances in Mercosur Dim After Chavez Called Quasi-Dictator in Brazil Senate PDF Print E-mail
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Thursday, 01 October 2009

Hugo Chavez Chances of Venezuela ever joining the Mercosur received a full blow this week when the Brazilian senate Foreign Relations committee rapporteur said the hopeful member-country is ruled by an "almost dictatorial" president Hugo Chavez

"Chavez rule is almost dictatorial, from the moment the Congress is totally submissive to his interests," said Senator Tasso Jereissati from the opposition Social Democrat party, in anticipation of the vote in the committee which is scheduled for the coming week.

Jereissati's report was highly critical even when until now he had been anticipated as a positive vote for Venezuela's incorporation. His arguments were that Venezuela as South America's third largest economy would be a boost for "a block extending from the Caribbean to Tierra del Fuego" and with 250 million people and 76% of the South American GDP.

"But economic arguments have been defeated by political authoritarian reality," he confessed. "The personality and actions of President Chavez, which initially were considered an issue of minor relevance, have ended as a major challenge."

More over the argument that rulers are transitory and countries permanent, which helps the Venezuela case, has been overwhelmed by "a forceful dismantling process of democratic freedoms with the purpose of perpetuating the president in office, militarization of the country, promotion of a political/ideological regional expansionist project with constant provocative interventions in internal affairs of other countries."

"Chavez' Venezuela is an instrument of division and disintegration for South America," underlined Jereissati.

Although admitting Chavez has been democratically elected, Senator Jereissati insists that the political reforms promoted by the Venezuelan government "privilege Chavez candidates" and the elected members of the opposition are "virtually impeded from taking office or ruling."

Venezuela adhered to Mercosur in 2006, but its incorporation approved by the legislative branches of Argentina and Uruguay is pending a similar vote from the Brazilian Senate and the Paraguayan congress, where the matter was recently shelved by the Executive fearing a negative outcome.

In Brazil the vote was blocked in 2007 following Chavez claims that Brazilian Senators were "lap pets of the United States imperialism and only represented the interests of the local oligarchy." Since then opposition Senators have been highly critical of Chavez and his "authoritarian practices."

Even the president of the Senate, José Sarney, a crucial ally of Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva is critical of Chavez although he promised that in the next vote he would not interfere with the will of the executive.

However in spite of the strong opposition the Lula administration is confident it has the sufficient votes in the Committee and in the full house to have the Mercosur Venezuelan incorporation treaty approved, as happened in the Lower House last December.

But if the proposal fails to be passed in the Foreign Affairs committee it will have to be definitively shelved. Besides Brazil is preparing for an electoral year so the forecast of the vote could be volatile, according to Brazilian analysts.

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militarization of the country, promotion of a political/ideological regional expansionist project with constant provocative interventions in internal affairs of other countries."
written by ch.c., October 01, 2009
And how is Brazil sooooo different ??????

Could Brazilians have answers ?

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written by João da Silva, October 01, 2009
Add "Polarization" to your comment. That was what Lord Augustus talking about, wasn't it ? Of course, you wouldn't accept his arguments nor mine, because you have branded all the Brasilians as "Liars, Cheaters and Hiders".

BTW, has Sarko found the "Black Boxes" of the Air France flt 447 yet, with his "magic" underwater submarines ? He being the C-in-C of the French Navy, should ask his subordinates to hurry up and get the job done before the onset of the winter. smilies/wink.gif smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/grin.gif

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written by The Guest, October 02, 2009
"Chavez rule is almost dictatorial, from the moment the Congress is totally submissive to his interests," said Senator Tasso Jereissati from the opposition Social Democrat party..."

"Chavez' Venezuela is an instrument of division and disintegration for South America," underlined Jereissati."

This is an example of the type of leadership that Brasil needs to project through out Latin America. I hope the opposition is enough to send a very decisive message to Chaves.
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written by ch.c., October 02, 2009
Do I am so wrong on " because you have branded all the Brasilians as "Liars, Cheaters and Hiders". ?

Here is an added proof :
"JBS may have added more water than allowed to its meat to increase the weight, Archanjo said in a telephone interview from Curitiba, Brazil."

And I dont get your answer because "insulting" the world over is typically Robbing Hook & Chavez Style.
Is this what you referred to when stating "example of the type of leadership that Brasil needs to project through out Latin America" ????????

I am certainly not in favor of Chavez the Clown.
But as I stated "how is Brazil sooooo different ??????" means also I cant be in favor of Robbing Hook !
And you should know this for the many hundreds of my arguments.
Brazil and Venezuela leaders are certainly not so much different.
When things go well and are rosy it is due to their obviously wise policies and when things are not so shiny it is due to OTHERS all the times and every time ! A subject talked more than once here !
When Robbing is in a shopping spree for arms HE is right to defend the new (probable) oil wealth but Chavez is wrong doing the same with his much much BIGGER PROVEN oil wealth. Right ?
Even more funny is 2-3 years ago when BRAZIL wanted to sell some military planes to VENEZUELA ! BECAUSE then both Brazil & Venezuela were obviously right, had the USA not put a vetoe !

Also Brazil finds it right to STICK with the original deal on electricity price with Paraguay signed 3 decades ago, and and and Brazil is ovbiously also right to change their TUPI fields orginal deal !
Correct ?

Brazil is obviously right to OBLIGE foreign cars/tractors/trucks makers to establish plants in Brazil and at the same time charge 100 % or so on vehicles made outside Brazil. But the USA and the EU are obvioously 100 % wrong to charge a much smaller import tax on brazilian ethanol ! RIGHT OR NOT ?

Brazil is right to subsidizes their farmers, but not the USA or EU ! Right ?
And you are even more right to subsidizes your coffee farmers despite the USA or the EU dont even produce COFFEE BEANS !.

I could continue for HOURS of how Brazilians are constantly cheating, lying, hiding and "TRICKING" !

Lets face it that Brazilians are cheaters, liars, hiders and trickers !
Lets face it that Brazilians are UNRELIABLE friends or trading partners. Have you a short memory of how Brazil and Venezuela were Sooooo friendly at the time of the mega pipeline project not so long ago ?
And how BRAZIL changed their mind when suddenly there is hope with the newly discovered TUPI fields ???????
Facts are that it is since the TUPI field discovery THAT BRAZIL SUDDENLY IS NO SO MUCH MORE READY TO ACCEPT VENEZUELA IN THE MERCOSUR !!!!!!!
Had this discovery not been made, Brazil critics to Venezuela would not even exist...and more than good friends you would have remained.....licking Chavez ass !

Concerning Sarko and the Black Box.....just look at a map and, eventually, you may find reasonable that to find such a box in an OCEAN is not easy at all. Regardless if having or not the best submarines, radars or whatever !
And it is not because the box was not found that Brazil is not eager to obtain French technology on submarines, helicopters or figther planes....TO MY KNOWLEDGE !
It will be fun to see what Sarko could say or do if for whatever reason Brazil choses the U.S. or Swedish planes !
He may as well change his mind for the submarines and helicopters deals eventually, none signed so far !
Just think about it !

Hmmmmmm !
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written by João da Silva, October 02, 2009
This is an example of the type of leadership that Brasil needs to project through out Latin America. I hope the opposition is enough to send a very decisive message to Chaves.


I retract all the doubts I expressed about the "Populist Leadership" and " Visionary Leadership" in the other thread. Brazil´s leaders have demonstrated beyond any doubt that Populists also can be visionaries, by bringing the 2016 Olympic Games to your "second home". Unfortunately, though Col.Chavez is a "Populist", he is not a "Visionary" and if he was so,with all his oil money, he would have at least tried to put Caracas in the list of contenders!

Now we are ready to roll and nobody is going to question about our "leadership", including Col.Chavez, Kirchners, Lugos, Correas,Morales, Bachalerts, Khaddafis, etc;

With this decision of IOC, a permanent seat in the UNSC is guaranteed too.
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written by João da Silva, October 02, 2009
It will be fun to see what Sarko could say or do if for whatever reason Brazil choses the U.S. or Swedish planes !
He may as well change his mind for the submarines and helicopters deals eventually, none signed so far !
Just think about it !


Sarko is going to say "Why didn't I listen to ch.c ?" smilies/wink.gif

On a serious note, I have been contemplating about this and I think it is going to be Boeing made F-18. Scroll up and see my comments addressed to "The Guest" and connect the dots.
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written by The Guest, October 03, 2009
"Unfortunately, though Col.Chavez is a "Populist", he is not a "Visionary" and if he was so,with all his oil money, he would have at least tried to put Caracas in the list of contendes!"

He is a populist because he has money to throw around not because of his policies inside or outside of Venezuela, and his lack of vision is creating havoc in Venezuela's economy further eroding the foundation upon which his supporters are dependent, and which he should be building upon to lift them out of poverty. His supporters have not yet realized this, but one day they will. I hope when he is finally removed from power his replacement would not enact revenge upon what would then be his former supporters.

On another note, I left an answer for you on the other thread, if you have not read it already.
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