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Brazil Diaspora Meets in Rio to Discuss Expatriates Life PDF Print E-mail
Written by Isaura Daniel   
Monday, 05 October 2009

Brazilian abroad gather in Rio Brazilian living abroad are planning a great forum, later this month, for Rio de Janeiro, where they will discuss the situation of Brazilians living abroad. The 2nd Conference of Brazilian Communities Abroad - Brazilians Worldwide, will happen at the Itamaraty Palace from October 14 to 16 and is sponsored by Brazil's Ministry of Foreign Relations.

According to government information, those participating should include politicians and scholars from countries in which there are Brazilian communities.

From Lebanon, the Arab country that concentrates a large group of Brazilians, will come historian Roberto Khatlab. He is originally from the state of Paraná but is of Lebanese descent and operates as a researcher in the Arab country.

Khatlab has several books about the migratory ties between Brazil and Lebanon, among them Mahjar, Saga Libanesa no Brasil (Mahjar, The Lebanese Saga in Brazil), published in Lebanon by publishing house Mokhatarat, and Brasil-Líbano, Amizade que desafia a distância (Brazil-Lebanon, Friendship that challenges distance), published by Edusc publishing house, in Brazil.

The meeting in Rio should also bring together several authorities from Brasil and abroad, and should include presentations about activities governments are developing in benefit of Brazilians who live in other nations. There should be panels covering culture and education, labor, social security and health, consular services and migratory regulation as well as political representation.

Each panel should present its conclusions in a plenary session. There should also be meetings with regional debates. They should be divided into four regions: the first should include North America, South America, Central America and the Caribbean, the second, Europe, the third, Asia, Africa and the Middle East, and the fourth, Oceania.

On October 15, in the sidelines of the conference, there should also be the first Meeting of the Legal Brazilian Diaspora, between Brazilian lawyers who operate in the sector abroad.

The meeting should take place at the headquarters of the Rio de Janeiro state Chapter of the Brazilian Bar Association (OAB). This is the first meeting of the sort in the tourism area. The Conference of Brazilian Communities Abroad, in turn, is at its second edition.

Service

2nd Conference of Brazilian Communities Abroad
October 14 to 16, 2009
Itamaraty Palace, in Rio de Janeiro
Further information:
brasileirosnomundo@mre.gov.br

Anba

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written by João da Silva, October 05, 2009
Brazilian living abroad are planning a great forum, later this month, for Rio de Janeiro, where they will discuss the situation of Brazilians living abroad


The situation of the "Brazilians living abroad" must be quite alarming and precarious. So it must be a great forum to complain without giving any solutions.

According to government information, those participating should include politicians and scholars from countries in which there are Brazilian communities.


"Politicians and Scholars"?. Not a forum where I would be allowed, as I am neither. smilies/cheesy.gif smilies/grin.gif

The meeting in Rio should also bring together several authorities from Brasil and abroad,


Is PBO going to participate?

On October 15, in the sidelines of the conference, there should also be the first Meeting of the Legal Brazilian Diaspora, between Brazilian lawyers who operate in the sector abroad.


The Lawyers too? smilies/smiley.gif

The meeting should take place at the headquarters of the Rio de Janeiro state Chapter of the Brazilian Bar Association (OAB). This is the first meeting of the sort in the tourism area.


I am soo glad that OAB is involved in the "Tourism Area" too. It is time we arrest all the tourists and sue them for entering into the country. smilies/angry.gif

Last, but the least, IMHO, this forum should invite Lord Augustus and Dr.Ricardo Amaral as speakers and ch.c as a "Moderator" of the debates. In such an impossible eventuality, I might consider participating too as a "Neutral Observer", provided the organizers foot the bill. smilies/smiley.gif
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Yesss Joao !
written by ch.c., October 05, 2009
1) For Brazilians....all EX Brazilians having left the country decades or generations ago (as the Lebanese in the article) are
still brazilians thus member of the Brazilian diaspora. Right ?

2) For Brazilians....all EX foreigners having left their country decades or generations ago are...Brazilians and no longer Japanese/Italians/Spanish/Germans/etc.... diaspora ! Right ?

Hmmmm !

In my humble view, a Brazilian is no longer member of the Brazilian diaspora when he gets a NEW or second passport.
And the SAME is just as true for the foreigners acquiring a second passport : the Brazilian one as only passport or second passport !
Otherwise nearly 90 % of ALL Brazilians residing in Brazil are themselves a DIASPORA MEMBER.... of another country...but not really Brazilians...BY DEFINITION !

Yesss Joao, yourself if not Indian is a member of a foreign diaspora due to your ancestrors at one point in time, just as the Lebanese mentionned is considered a member of the Brazilian diaspora !

Just think about it !
One way thinking is typically...BRAZILIAN STYLE !

And in your view are my 2 daughters members of the Tunisian diaspora in Switzerland (due to their mom origin), when 1 has double nationality and 1 has only the Swiss nationality ?

Hmmmmm !

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written by ch.c., October 05, 2009
Because the question becomes....AT WHAT POINT IN TIME DOES SOMEONE STOPS TO BE...A DIASPORA MEMBER OF COUNTRY X or Y or Z ? Or B like Brazil ?

Good question, isnt it ?

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written by João da Silva, October 06, 2009
And in your view are my 2 daughters members of the Tunisian diaspora in Switzerland (due to their mom origin), when 1 has double nationality and 1 has only the Swiss nationality ?


It is an extremely interesting and objective question,ch.c. Especially in your case, because you were married to a Tunisian and of different culture. Some years ago, some friends were discussing about this such example and quoting them, I woulds say that your ex-wife would still be just 60% Swiss and maintaining her Tunisian Identity to 40%, regardless of the passport she holds. In your daughters case, though they must have their Mom´s influence to a great extent, if they went to school in Switzerland, they would probably be 100 % Swiss.Whether they hold 1,2,3. or N nationalities, they would consider themselves as just Swiss. Besides, many people hold dual nationalities for convenience (doing business, tax purposes, travel,etcsmilies/wink.gif.

Another typical example in this blog is ASP who is an American with the permanent resident status, but married to a Brasilian lady probably with a "green Card" in the U.S., but their son has dual citizenship (born in U.S., but to a Brazilian lady). But he went to school in Brasil and lives here. So he is just a Brasilian. I know a couple of elderly Americans who were born in this country and speak and write Portuguese perfectly, but hold dual citizenship. It was convenient for them to be Brasilians in order to get government jobs, but also to hold American passports so that they could travel freely to the U.S. and many other countries without requiring visas. If I recall correctly, one of our Supreme Court Judges is another such case.

In the case of the "Brazil Diaspora" meeting in Rio, I really do not know what exactly the real objective is. smilies/cheesy.gif
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My daughters .....they would consider themselves as just Swiss !
written by ch.c., October 07, 2009
I undertsand what they consider to be themselves, no doubt !
But how should one perceive them.....with such an article above ?

And the same for so many Japanese origin living in Brazil !
Would/Should Japan consider them to be part of their diaspora, or is Brazil considering them as Brazilians ?

Thus the question remains...at what point the term DIASPORA is no longer appropriate ?

Finally, I have been amazed many times over the years, in this site, when regularly some Brazilians junkies (no longer members)
had harsh critics against some Brazilians with Germans or Italians or Europeans origin,
forgetting that they themselves had similar types of not so long ago ancestrors !


Hmmmmm ! smilies/grin.gif
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things to think about
written by Forrest Allen Brown, October 09, 2009
you chose to leave , to move to another country ? why ?
while in that country obay the laws . dont do a crime and run off to brazil so you under brazilian law be deported back to the country you commited the crime .

if you are in that country illeagle dont demand rights you are not granted in your home country
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