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Brazil Ditches Portuguese and Adopts Brazilian as Official Language PDF Print E-mail
Written by Fulton Phillipson   
Tuesday, 01 April 2008

Portugal's royal family arrives in Rio, Brazil, in 1808 When Brazil's President, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, marks Independence Day on September 7 he will announce that the country intends replacing Portuguese as its official language with its own language to be known as Brazilian. 

The move, highlighted in a recent cover story by the magazine Carta Capital, which is known to be close to the Lula administration, will shortly be announced by Brasília and reflects a widespread view that the language spoken in Brazil is so far removed from that spoken in Portugal that it is best to accept the obvious and declare linguistic independence.

It also brings to the surface a deep resentment by many Brazilians against the Portuguese whom they believe exploited Brazil's natural resources and gave nothing in return. 

The events marking the 200th  anniversary this year of the arrival of the Portuguese royal family in Rio de Janeiro to escape Napoleon's army highlights for many Brazilians how their country eventually overshadowed Portugal in terms of its importance.  

While magazines and television have been celebrating the event, others have complained that it is of no relevance to modern Brazil. 

"Why should we be marking the arrival of a bunch of parasites who only came here because they were not brave enough to stay at home and defend their country against the invaders? Instead of fighting the enemy, they jumped on English ships which took them to Brazil and in return they gave the English exclusive rights to exploit Brazil's resources," said Solange Civeta Mesquita, Professor of Brazilian history at the University of Mato Grosso do Sul.

Ms Mesquita is widely respected abroad and won a Pulitzer prize for her 10-part series on Brazilian independence which appeared in the New York Times in 2000 to mark the 500th anniversary of the "discovery" of Brazil.  

"Look how the Dutch developed the part of Brazil they held for 20-30 years - building canals in Recife, establishing schools and bringing skilled technicians to undertake technical projects instead of using the country as garbage dump for convicts, as the Portuguese did," she added.  

Brazilians and Portuguese regularly complain about how badly the others speak what is supposed to be a common language. Brazil's popular soap operas, known as novelas, are shown all over the world with subtitles - even in Portugal since the Portuguese can barely follow what the Brazilians have done to their language.

In turn, Brazilians find the Portuguese spoken in Portugal to be antiquated, creaky and quaint. The Portuguese are the butt of a million jokes and if any Brazilian wants to win a cheap laugh all he has to do is imitate a Portuguese.

Lula himself is a perfect example of how Brazilians have taken the language and changed it to suit their ends, regardless of laws of grammar and pronunciation. Lula is often accused of not even speaking Portuguese.  

Wilberto Bloch, a Brazilian who teaches Latin America linguistics at John Hopkins University, says: "The Brazilian snobs who make this complaint about Lula - generally from São Paulo - do not realize that the language he speaks is separate from the one they were taught at school with its references to Camões and Eça de Queiroz."     

This is one of the reasons why Lula is believed to be particularly keen on the idea of declaring linguistic independence, Bloch claims. "Lula is originally from the interior of the Northeastern state of Pernambuco and knows that the language he speaks has developed from its surroundings in a vast disparate territory which covers half of South America and not a tiny sliver of coastline thousands of miles away huddled along the Atlantic," he said.   

Brazilian Portuguese not only reflects a language which was developed by people who were not Portuguese - Indians, Africans and the great mixture of people which have made Brazil one of the most racially-mixed countries in the world - but who also had dozens of Indian languages to provide "le mot juste," particularly for their natural surroundings. 

The strength of this natural language is seen in the fact that around 30% of the language spoken in Brazil has indigenous or African roots, says Diego Haldebrecht Santini Frias from the linguistic department of the University of Paraná whose own name shows his German, Italian and Portuguese ancestry.

He thinks it is time for Portuguese to be scrapped and says that if history had gone the other way the national language would have been the Indian language Tupi. He recalls how his own grandfather, the son of German immigrants to southern Brazil, conversed in various German dialects as did everyone else in a predominantly German areas. Most people barely spoke Portuguese. His great grandmother was Italian and never learned Portuguese. 

"It was the fascist dictator Getúlio Vargas who stopped German, Italian and Japanese schools teaching in their native languages and enforced Portuguese on a large number of people. This was done when Brazil entered the war on the side of the Americans. If this had not happened, Brazil would be a multilingual country. In hindsight, it would have been better if he made everyone learn English."

A different view comes from Mauro da Silva Pereira who helped establish the Museum of the Portuguese Language which opened in São Paulo two years ago and has been a great success with Brazilians.

"Of course there are many differences. That happens anywhere. Look at the different varieties of English spoken in the US, Canada, Australia and even among the English themselves. Remember "My Fair Lady" which is all about different ways of speaking what is supposed to be the same language," he said. "Portuguese is the language of Brazil and Brazil is the language of Portuguese. I admit I may be biased as I am Portuguese."

The change will require an alteration in the Constitution but the government is certain that it will win the three-fifths majority required. The debate is likely to be interesting since some politicians, such as Senator Eduardo Suplicy of São Paulo who is an avid Anglophile, thinks Brazil should adopt English since it is the global language.

"My favorite song is Bob Dylan's "Blowin' in the Wind" and I would love it to be Brazil's national anthem," he said. "Wouldn't be great to speak a language that the whole world understood instead of an obscure tongue that no-one has ever heard of?"

Gilberto Gil, the culture minister, who is one of Brazil's best-known singers and attended ceremonies marking the arrival of the Portuguese royal family, was also laid back about the idea. When I spoke to him by telephone over the Easter period and asked him what he thought of the idea of scrapping Portuguese, he replied in excellent English: "Cool dude. Way to go!"

Gil's contemporary Caetano Veloso is fluent in English and spent some time living in London during the military dictatorship when he even wrote one of his most famous songs in English "London London". I managed to have a brief word with him before he left on a European tour and asked him what he thought.

"You know I'm a mulatto from Bahia. You might not think so but if you compare my eyes with Gil's you'll see that mine are darker. I think I have a greater affinity for playing the guitar and dancing than he does but, at the same time, I have a kind of melancholy which Gil doesn't have and I think I got that from my European ancestors who were probably Portuguese. I would be happy to say goodbye to Portuguese because it is a sad, heavy language that does not fit in with our temperament. Let's be Brazilian and speak and sing Brazilian!"

Model Giselle Bündchen, who lives in New York, and is of German origin said having Brazilian as a language made sense. "After all, if the Germans speak German, the English English and the French French why shouldn't Brazilians speak Brazilian?" 

TV personality Luciana Gimenez, best known abroad for her affair with Mick Jagger, said: "I speak six languages fluently. This means I can now add another and tell everyone I speak seven."       

Portugal is understandably upset but, faced with an offspring of Brazil's size, there is nothing it can do. At least it can take some comfort that one of the world's smallest and most wretchedly poor nations - East Timor - decided to have Portuguese as it official language when it became independent from Indonesia.

April Fool's! Interviews, author, and much of the info are ficticious.

Fulton Phillipson is Professor of Semantics at the Inuit University of Manitoba, Canada. He has identified 250 separate indigenous languages and written a number of books including "Tupi or Not Tupi - Finding an Indigenous Brazilian Language", "Toppling the Tower of Babel", "Phonemics and Classicism in Creole Speech in the Caribbean", and "Sexism in Language - Language in Sexism". He has also written about the discrimination practiced against Brazil's population of Eskimo/Inuit descent.

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written by Pedro, April 01, 2008
Since you don't speak Portuguese, I'm gonna comment in English: This arthicle, and this whole magazine for that mather, is a joke. You lack self-esteem and patriotism, otherwise you would love Brazil just the way it is. And your Dutch colonization theory is just laughable. Have you guys been to Indonesia or Suriname, former Dutch colonies? Two shitty countries, I tell you. You should be proud for speaking an European language, it makes you look less of a third world country smilies/smiley.gif
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written by Tiago, April 01, 2008
Haha April's Fool. Eu falo Português!
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Nonsense
written by Brazilian_Speaker, April 01, 2008
I suppose the commentator Pedro is a Portuguese guy, judging by his resentment. He thinks Brazil should be proud for speaking an European language. Certainly he is proud of the very recent wave of development provided by the German, French, British and Scandinavian subsidies that promoted Portugal from XIX to XX century. Maybe he still believes that Portugal is a world class superpower? (It makes me laugh). He should study Brazilian instead of laying his resentment about Portugal's insignificance.
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written by MPB, April 01, 2008
Because Brazil will become at least a moderate world power, whereas Portugal will never again amount to anything in the world political game. Plus, Portuguese Portuguese sounds like shit, but Brazilian Portuguese has a very nice, clear rhythmic sound to it.

The "professor" who made the statement about the dutch is a fucking idiot, and some type of Dutch-phile apparently. How about the fact that the dutch sacked and burned large parts of the territory they took over, including many old public buildings like churches, without ever rebuilding new ones.
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written by Michael, April 01, 2008
Given the current or recurrent move to unifiy spelling rules and accent marks of the Portuguese language, and the date on which the article was posted, I must ask the obvious: was this article meant as an April fools' joke?
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first of aBril
written by toto, April 01, 2008
Ahahahaha!!! Nice 1st of abril joke! an article that cites Gisele Bunchen, Luciana Gimenez and some obscure professor from Parana can't get no credits. Besides Fulton Philips who worte "Tupi ir not tupi" (more laughs) doesn't exist !!!
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Brazilian portuguese is an indo-european language
written by european, April 01, 2008
"Brazilian" or "Brazilian Portuguese"? The language is in any case a latin language!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_languages

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_language
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written by Bill, April 01, 2008
"He has also written about the discrimination practiced against Brazil's population of Eskimo/Inuit descent."

This article has got to be an April fool's joke.

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written by Mario, April 01, 2008
Happy April 1st.

I'm Portuguese aware of our past and current mistakes (living in Asia for 14 years and currently living in UK helps keeping things in perspective) but overall I couldn't be more proud of my ancestry (and its accomplishments) and the potential of modern Portuguese people in the modern world.

Without the Portuguese today's Brasil as such would not exist just like without celts, romans, goths, moors, etc, today's Portugal would not exist. And... without Brasil, Portuguese people would have died bored by our novelas in the past 25 years.

"Plus, Portuguese Portuguese sounds like s**t, but Brazilian Portuguese has a very nice, clear rhythmic sound to it." I generally agree with BP being more rhythmic then PP (but we are ignoring all the possible PP dialects, some of which much more melodious then standard PP) but to conclude that PP sounds like shit... it's definitely a debatable conclusion. I personally have the impression (and heard) that many spanish-speaking people find PP "a sweet language" (quote by Cervantes).
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History Written by the Winners
written by SqueezeOne, April 01, 2008
One thing that people are ignoring is the fact that the only reason Portuguese is what it is in Portugal is because the people that had the power in that country decided the way that THEY spoke was the "right" way. That's how language works in history. French in it's basic form as it is today was only spoken by a minority of people inhabiting what is now France...it's just that they held the wealth and power so they decided their language would be what is "correct". As a result many other languages and dialects of the region have died due to either outright oppression or institutional discouragement. Look at the Scots language for another prime example. It's not bad or good (although the way some governments have approached it in history is a different story), it's just how life works.

I realize this is probably a joke article, but from a linguistic and historical perspective this wouldn't be a completely bizarre event were it actually happening. Brazil has power over itself and it's language IS completely different from Portugal's to the point where they're only marginally understandible (I can't understand the Portuguese at ALL!!). It's almost like hearing Italian or Spanish from the perspective of a Portuguese speaker. Same root language but different specifics.
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Go on and change to your lazy brazilian dialect...
written by Viriato, April 01, 2008
Clearly this is a joke from April's 1st, however I could care less if this bananas republic called brazil wants to change its official language,...In case you haven't heard their president speaking pseudo-portuguese, with lots of gramatical errors, and behaving like a retard, then you should, it's hilarious. In fact, I feel ashamed that a language like Portuguese, which is one of the oldest in Europe and is acclaimed everywhere, where even the Koreans, Japanese and chinese adopted many words, especially in the XVI and XVII centuries, is now being destroyed by a bunch of lazy ass brazilians...go on and change officialy your language, we would be more than happy, in case you haven't noticed Portuguese is from Portugal, a galaico-portuguese language,...it's not a shitty dialect spoken by favelados, ok??
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joke
written by Anderson, April 01, 2008
this article looks like it was made by a rebel who dresses like an american, talks like an american, and thinks america is cooler than brazil (example; doesnt have to be american)

PORTUEGUESE, TUPI - english shouldnt be part of the multiple choices.

I would never adopt English as my first language

Brazilians be proud of what we are, we are of portuguese and european decent

if it was intended by God that you were discovered by portugal, BRAZILIAN PORTUGUESE is your language. Any other language is a joke to our culture.

this shows how Brazilians can ruin culture,
I HATE HOW PORTUGAL HANDLED MY COUNTRY. but just because my father didnt treat me right doesnt mean i have to hate him forever.

These people look up to us and love us, why must we differenciate what is good, we would lose millions of soccer fans etc...
Portugal being our parent country, brother country, sister country makes me have more respect for them then anyother country (portugal, angola, Cabo Verde, Ganna) and many others

English, Americans, Australians : you know what they think of brazilians when we show off on how we speak english = they think we are posers

IF BRAZIL CHOOSES English == BRAzil=== POSERRRRRRRRRRRR
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eu não falo feito portuga, amo-te, chamo-me, chego a casa, é mó feio falar assim
written by Jacyra, April 01, 2008
A gente num saca português de Portugal. As novelas lusitanas são dubladas p/nossa língua.
We don't understand continental Portuguese. Portugal soap operas are dubbed into our language.

Português ou Brasileiro - um convite à pesquisa:
http://paginas.terra.com.br/educacao/marcosbagno/liv_portugues_brasileiro.htm

great book by a Brazilian linguist: MARCOS ARAUJO BAGNO
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língua tupiniquim, um sonho de Mário de Andrade, nosso melhor poeta
written by Jacyra, April 01, 2008
a great article by a Brazilian linguist ENI ORLANDO

A LÍNGUA BRASILEIRA:
http://cienciaecultura.bvs.br/scielo.php?pid=S0009-67252005000200016&script=sci_arttext

viva a língua brasileira
viva Macunaíma!
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VIVA MACUNAÍMA
written by Jacyra, April 01, 2008
a great article by a Brazilian linguist ENI ORLANDO

A LÍNGUA BRASILEIRA:
http://cienciaecultura.bvs.br/...ci_arttext

viva a língua brasileira
viva Macunaíma!
Portugal vá pra Cucuia!
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FATOS
written by Jacyra, April 01, 2008


Fernando Tarallo:

O principal objetivo deste capítulo é delinear algumas bases lingüísticas em torno das quais se centrava toda a discussão na virada do século, isto é: esboçar a emergência de uma gramática brasileira que, ao final do século XIX, mostrava claras diferenças estruturais em relação à gramática portuguesa. Tais diferenças, conforme bem o atestam os trabalhos de Galves tornaram-se ainda mais acentuadas neste final do século XX. Quatro grandes mudanças serão aqui apresentadas:

1. a re-organização do sistema pronominal que teve como conseqüências mais importantes a implementação de objetos nulos no sistema brasileiro de um lado, e sujeitos lexicais mais freqüentes de outro (...);

2. a mudança sintática ocorrida nas estratégias de relativização como conseqüência direta da mudança no sistema pronominal (...);

3. a re-organização dos padrões sentenciais básicos (...) e, diretamente relacionado a esta ordem SVO rígida em estado de emergência à época, o enrijecimento do princípio de adjacência na marcação do acusativo (...);

4. e, finalmente, uma quarta mudança no sistema brasileiro, diretamente ligada às três anteriores, será apresentada como evidência cabal de que os dois sistemas continuam a distanciar-se um do outro: os padrões sentenciais em perguntas diretas e indiretas (...)

Os quatro casos sintáticos apresentados na seção anterior devem ser tomados como evidência quantitativa de que mudanças dramáticas aconteceram na passagem do século XIX para o atual. Fica claro a partir do retrato oferecido que um novo sistema gramatical – chama-se de gramática brasileira ou de dialeto com sua própria configuração uma vez tratar-se de uma questão meramente ideológica – emergiu ao final do século XIX, estabelecendo uma nova gramática radicalmente diferente da modalidade lusitana (...)


[Fernando Tarallo, Diagnosticando uma gramática brasileira: o português d’aquém e d’além-mar ao final do século XIX, Português Brasileiro. Uma viagem diacrônica, Ian Roberts, Mary A. Kato (orgs.), Campinas, Editora Unicamp, 1993, p. 70]
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vamos parar de cultivar a diglossia, a gente fala brasileiro
written by Jacyra, April 01, 2008
Mary Kato

Mas os resultados fornecem uma descrição bastante instigante do que vem mudando no português do Brasil, e o conjunto desses resultados é uma evidência de que o que ocorre não é um processo de ‘deterioração da gramática’, como pensam os escolarizados pela ótica da gramática prescritivista, mas uma reorganização interna coerente, uma mudança radical (paramétrica) na língua. Entre os aspectos mais extraordinários do PB estão o progressivo empobrecimento de sua morfologia flexional, o uso extensivo de categorias vazias cuja identificação não pode ser feita através da flexão; a falta de mobilidade, ou de movimentos longos, de elementos distintos, como verbos, pronomes interrogativos e clíticos. Por outro lado, mesmo quando a morfologia é capaz de identificar um pronome nulo, é o pronome lexical que se manifesta. O ‘sujeito’, seja como a categoria que concorda com o verbo, seja como tópico, pede realização fonológica. Apesar dessa aparente “desgramaticalização” do PB, o entendimento entre as pessoas é tão perfeito (ou imperfeito) como o que ocorre com falantes do italiano ou espanhol, línguas de complexa morfologia, cheia de movimentos de subida ou de inversão, ou com falantes de línguas como o inglês ou francês, com pouca morfologia flexional e com pouco uso de pronomes nulos.

A consciência dessas mudanças sistemáticas, que desembocam em uma língua distante de suas irmãs românicas, até mesmo do português de Portugal, é necessária para entender por que os estudantes escrevem como escrevem e por que a língua dos textos escolares, para as camadas que vêm de pais iletrados, pode parecer tão estranha quanto a de um texto do século XVIII para o lingüista iniciando-se em estudos dacrônicos. O Brasil apresenta assim um caso extremo de ‘diglossia’ entre a fala do aluno que entra para a escola e o padrão de escrita que ele deve adquirir.


[Mary A. Kato, Como, o que e por que escavar? Português Brasileiro. Uma viagem diacrônica, Ian Roberts, Mary A. Kato (orgs.), Campinas, Editora Unicamp, 1993, p. 19-20]
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"Um dos traços mais importantes do português brasileiro é o seu conservadorismo em relação à variante européia, sobretudo no aspecto fonético. Um português do Século XVI mais facilmente reconheceria a fala de um brasileiro do Século XX como sua do que a fala de um português."

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"written by me, 2008-04-01 18:47:17
"Um dos traços mais importantes do português brasileiro é o seu conservadorismo em relação à variante européia, sobretudo no aspecto fonético. Um português do Século XVI mais facilmente reconheceria a fala de um brasileiro do Século XX como sua do que a fala de um português."

-What a Laugh, I can't stop laughing, but hen again anything brazuca's say makes me laugh to no end,just like their importance inthis world-



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"written by Pedro, 2008-04-01 09:42:22
Since you don't speak Portuguese, I'm gonna comment in English: This arthicle, and this whole magazine for that mather, is a joke. You lack self-esteem and patriotism, otherwise you would love Brazil just the way it is. And your Dutch colonization theory is just laughable. Have you guys been to Indonesia or Suriname, former Dutch colonies? Two s**tty countries, I tell you. You should be proud for speaking an European language, it makes you look less of a third world country."

-I couldn't have said better than you, it never fails to amze me how brazuca's obsess over the fact of the Dutch & yet choose not to recognize the Portuguese contributions, because after all they are the failures in their own country, as you said above they only choose to acknowledge what suits them, but then again that's what distinguishes brazilian's fromthe Portuguese, jsut like CHC says all the time, they lie cheat, steal, & mal educated, etc.
The Portuguese, HIgh moral character, integrity, sincerity, honesty, hard workers, respectful, etc".
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written by PA, April 01, 2008
Nonsense
written by Brazilian_Speaker, 2008-04-01 10:12:51
I suppose the commentator Pedro is a Portuguese guy, judging by his resentment. He thinks Brazil should be proud for speaking an European language. Certainly he is proud of the very recent wave of development provided by the German, French, British and Scandinavian subsidies that promoted Portugal from XIX to XX century. Maybe he still believes that Portugal is a world class superpower? (It makes me laugh). He should study Brazilian instead of laying his resentment about Portugal's insignificance.
-Portuguese or not, you should only wish to be Portuguese, the whole problem with brazilians is their low self esteem, which they seem to turn on everyone, what a laugh you are the significanc eof brazil, LOL, you should go aroudnthe world & see what trash you import & they're leaving by the boatload, ffromthe country that you fell is so important in this world.
At least they did something in this world, what has your country done, produce sluts, lazy asses. If you don' tlike what you are do what everyone in brazil does everyday, put a gun to your head or go lay in the hay."
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"Nothing wrong here...
written by MPB, 2008-04-01 11:32:06
Because Brazil will become at least a moderate world power, whereas Portugal will never again amount to anything in the world political game. Plus, Portuguese Portuguese sounds like s**t, but Brazilian Portuguese has a very nice, clear rhythmic sound to it".

-How do you know so much about the above, brazil a moderate power, you only wish, we are all holding our breath.
Portugal will never again be? you must be psychic, lets see when brazil stops being a 3rd world country. Obviosly brazilians don't get hep from anyone, they do it all on their own.
As far as to your sound, it's to cover up the unimportant things most of you have to say.

The "professor" who made the statement about the dutch is a f**king idiot, and some type of Dutch-phile apparently. How about the fact that the dutch sacked and burned large parts of the territory they took over, including many old public buildings like churches, without ever rebuilding new ones.
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"Go on and change to your lazy brazilian dialect...written by Viriato, 2008-04-01 16:14:23
Clearly this is a joke from April's 1st, however I could care less if this bananas republic called brazil wants to change its official language,...In case you haven't heard their president speaking pseudo-portuguese, with lots of gramatical errors, and behaving like a retard, then you should, it's hilarious. In fact, I feel ashamed that a language like Portuguese, which is one of the oldest in Europe and is acclaimed everywhere, where even the Koreans, Japanese and chinese adopted many words, especially in the XVI and XVII centuries, is now being destroyed by a bunch of lazy ass brazilians...go on and change officialy your language, we would be more than happy, in case you haven't noticed Portuguese is from Portugal, a galaico-portuguese language,...it's not a s**tty dialect spoken by favelados, ok??".

-I second that, couldn't have said it better. One thing that brazuca's don't seem to realize is that the Portuguese people as a whole really don't give a shit what they are though of by them, brazuca's are nothing more than trash & wehreever they go they prove it so along with their own country, brazuca's like to talk about their importance which is really a low self esteem, b/s that they concot.
At elast the Portuguese people that i know really would welcome it that you stop speaking their language, your eally don't help nothing at all, you just give it a bad name-.
So go right ahed change it,t eh world is watching.
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Jacyra
written by PA, April 01, 2008
For you it's simple, they should put you on a boat back to where you belong, AFrica, i hear they are doing well & are wecoming their offspring. Let us all know when you're leaving, so we can wave goodbye.
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written by PA, April 01, 2008
-A brazilian with common sense, kudos to you-
I guess brazil hasn't made any mistakes in 185 yrs, isn't human nature to know that no one or any one thing is not perfect, why brazilians obsess over their past, as if anything would be different under any other rule, defies logic.
they are under an impression that they would be arich nation & there would be no problems,etc.
Even the U.S.A has probelms & not everyone is rich, da.
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written by PA, April 01, 2008
Brazil as a whole is a JOKE, nothing made me laugh more when i lived there for a short time how everyone likes to hilite their other ethnicities in their bloodline whether it exists or not such as german, irish, italina, etc.
Waht is even funnier is that when brazilains go to those countries they are laughed at, thought of as black, turks, etc.
And they think that buy calling their spoken language soemthing else, that their importance will grow, can see in what, i'm laughin so hard that i'm falling off my chair-
Also, how the colonizer stole their riches, etc. If the territory was theirs hos is that stealing?
I guess the thiefery that has been going on for 185 yrs to today is not theft, it's ok, just close your eyes.
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written by PA, April 01, 2008
-Now lets all jsut wait & see how many countries are goingto adoptthe -brazilian language-
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written by John B, April 02, 2008
After spending about 5 months in Rio De Janeiro and Volta Redonda , and studying Brazilian Portuguese , I found the language to be most beautiful. I would support the change to Brazilian language since it is the language of the Country. But I would also think that the Schools should teach English to all the students, instead of just the student that can afford to pay to go to private schools.
So many Native Brazilians could not speak any English, even in the commercial districts of Rio De Janeiro . But all in all it is the most welcoming city I have visited even with all their crime. The Brazilians tried to be helpful speaking Brazilian Portuguese.
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PORTUGAL = BAITA DE UM LIXO
written by Jacyra, April 02, 2008
Portugal go home. A gente odeia vocês.
Aloprados! Birutas! smilies/tongue.gif
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VIVA MACUNAÍMA
written by Jacyra, April 02, 2008
-Now lets all jsut wait & see how many countries are goingto adoptthe -brazilian language-

Well, South Africans changed the name of the language from Dutch to Afrikaans.
We should do the same. There's no logic in writing Portuguese (Chamo-me, amo-te, chegou a casa)
but speaking Brazilian (Me chamo, Te amo, chegou em casa).

Our language is completely different than the language of Portugal.
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written by Jenny, April 02, 2008
"PORTUGAL = BAITA DE UM LIXOwritten by Jacyra, 2008-04-02 08:17:14
Portugal go home. A gente odeia vocês.
Aloprados! Birutas!

It seems from your previous posts that you hate eveyone Jacyra, the portuguese, the sulistas, etc. for hwatever your hatred it is not going to change anything regardless.
If indeed the brazilian potuguese is going to be called brazilian, lets see ehat changes in the country, does that mean that the eductional level, the homelseeness, poverty ig going to get better? How?
it seems to me that you WREAK of ingnorance like the rest of the shitty/filthy country. in case you didn;'t know you are the latrine of south america, pure trash, & you have nerve of calling others what yoiu are & have been all of your lives.




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written by Anderson, April 02, 2008
Portugal being a super power or not, Respect the nation, we are their sons, and brothers.

We do not whish to be like Europeans, and we are not posers

a poser is someone who thinks he doesnt need someone else.

PORTUGAL MAY SUCK OR RULE, STILL PORTUGUESE WILL BE MY LANGUAGE FOREVER,



A nation that only respects "SUPER POWERS" is a nation full of posers, respect Portugal, respect Argentina, respect Africa, and this way maybe we can keep their respect for us.


How idiodic, Nation full of rebels, with no culture whatsoever.
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written by Anderson, April 02, 2008
some Brazilian say "americans are show off, ignorant etc...; European think they are too good"

WELL GOOD STEP BRAZIL : YOURE FALLING AMERICAS FOOTSTEP, keep up the good work, when we fall, it wont be so easy.

Look at what we thought of americans; allways saying that they didnt need anyone, and that they were the best nation in the world.

they are collapsing before, keep this up and we wont even be able to colapse (we're not that high yet)


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written by Anderson, April 02, 2008
BRAZILIANS LOVE PEOPLE WHO LAUGH AT THEM
AND BRAZILIANS HUMILIATE THOSE WHO LOOK UP TO THEM.

I WAS RAISED LIKE THAT, I KNOW PEOPLE LIKE THAT, AND IM SURE ITS A BIG PERCENTAGE OF US.


WE LOVE THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIVING WE TRY TO COPY THEM; WE ALSO LOVE EUROPEAN STYLE, AND WE COPY IT.

why cant we have our own style, WHY CAN't we stop being posers. (about the adopting ENGLISH)


THE DAY BRAZIL ADOPTS ENGLISH AS ITS LANGUAGE YOU EUROPEANS MAY DECLARE AS E NEW NATION (name: POSER)
do you think these rich, fancy living punks, like any of us brazilians ??????? they are disgusted by how we try to copy them.


WHY CANT WE BE DIFFERENT, why cant we call our language (Brazilian Portuguese) and keep our culture.



BRAZIL WILL ONLY BE LOVED IF IT STARTS SHOWING RESPECT FOR WEAKER ECONOMIES AND STOP LICKING RICH PEOPLE'S BUTT.
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written by Anderson, April 02, 2008
brazil world wide is know as ????????

BUTT KISSERS.
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written by Anderson, April 02, 2008
I am of German decent (MY GRANDMOTHER IS GERMAN)

SOME PEOPLE HAVE A GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER WHO IS GERMAN AND THEY THINK THEY ARE THE BOMB.

STILL NOT BEING 100% BRAZILIAN

I CALL MY SELF, MY KNOWLEDGE, MY ACTS COMPLETLY 100% brazilian
is anybody here brazilian? OR ARE YOU ALSO CALLING YOURSELF EUROPEAN.
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PORTUGAL, LEAVE OUR LOVELY BRAZZILMAG, GO TO YOUR SH*THOLE
written by Jacyra, April 02, 2008
portugal is the poorest country in Europe smilies/grin.gif
favela da união européia
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Non-Brazilian Viewpoint
written by de Souza, April 02, 2008
Wow. I have often heard that the version of Portuguese spoken in Brazil was different from thet spoken in Portugal but never thought it was radically different as to warrant a separate linguistic classification! I do not speak Portuguese - of either version, but based on what I have read, the version in Brazil is adulterated, just like Brazil itself, with some contribution from the various waves of immigration over the last few centuries, together with that of the indigenous peoples. This scenario is not unique to Brazil however, though Brazil definitely boasts one of the most diverse racial melting pots of all. Having said that, what I gather from this blog is that Brazilians speak a patois form of Portuguese, which in my opinion should not be re-defined to mean a new language because it is not. I can imagine those of German origins would have more German lingo in their language as would those of other origins. The question is who's version do you adopt. I remember watching "City of God" with friends and we all wondered if they were speaking Portuguese or an African language as it did indeed sound very African, as do people from the caribbean when they speak English or French. I however found Giselle Bundchen's comment to be extremely ignorant - "After all, if the Germans speak German, the English English and the French French why shouldn't Brazilians speak Brazilian?" . You're a beautiful girl Giselle but damn that statement was ignorant :-) I love Brazil, but the truth is you can't deny your Portuguese heritage.
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English should be Brazil's second language
written by Shuebydoo, April 02, 2008
Brazil should also make English an official second language. The English language possesses the largest vocabulary of all languages and constantly increasing. It is the language of science, technology, medicine and international politics.
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as someone earlier has pointed out...happy April Fool
written by Shuebydoo, April 02, 2008
...this is an April Fool's joke on the gullible.
See last year's April 1 2007 article by the same author "Brazil´s Eskimos - an Endangered Species" http://www.gringoes.com/articl...ticia=1748
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Jacyrona Leprosa Maleducadona
written by PA, April 02, 2008
"PORTUGAL, LEAVE OUR LOVELY BRAZZILMAG, GO TO YOUR SH*THOLEwritten by Jacyra, 2008-04-02 12:37:49
portugal is the poorest country in Europe
favela da união européia".
Now

They are waiting or you to leave onthe 1st boat so that they can clean up shop.

Let me enlighten you somewhat, because you seem to be the tipycal uninformed/maleducated Yuca of the brazilian educational system, unless you know of other stats do enlighten us bloggers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E...pean_Union

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ List_of_countries_by_percentage_of_population_living_in _poverty

I would hardly call Portugal a poor country by any means in comprison to brazil & many others.
Knowing the above the Linguarudas should know what to do with their tongue, put it in your asshole & please do not over exert yourself, because you sound lime a dispendada that has to wait for someone to rescue you. How SAD.
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written by Anderson, 2008-04-02 11:14:50
I am of German decent (MY GRANDMOTHER IS GERMAN)
SOME PEOPLE HAVE A GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER WHO IS GERMAN AND THEY THINK THEY ARE THE BOMB. STILL NOT BEING 100% BRAZILIAN
I CALL MY SELF, MY KNOWLEDGE, MY ACTS COMPLETLY 100% brazilian
is anybody here brazilian? OR ARE YOU ALSO CALLING YOURSELF EUROPEAN.

Anderson, although i agree with most of your post(s) above, i find it funny that you are being way to brazilian, to hilite your German grandmother, how about your other grandparents?
just because they may not be german? doesn't mean that you shouldn't hhilite them also.
And i find exteremely funny that as you say brzilians find it a bomb to say that they are in some way german, i wonder why?
i for one don't see why someone would hilite the fact that they are part of the most barbaric/evil/coldest people on earth that no one in Europe for the most part likes due to the HOLOCAUST, why would anyone even want to be associated with such people is beyond me. And i say the sme for italians, irish in brazil, when most of these people here inthe u.s. were considering yesterday trash/wops/spics/potto heads/drunks.
But that is brazil isn't.
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written by Anderson, 2008-04-02 10:51:31
Portugal being a super power or not, Respect the nation, we are their sons, and brothers.
We do not whish to be like Europeans, and we are not posers
a poser is someone who thinks he doesnt need someone else.
PORTUGAL MAY SUCK OR RULE, STILL PORTUGUESE WILL BE MY LANGUAGE FOREVER,
A nation that only respects "SUPER POWERS" is a nation full of posers, respect Portugal, respect Argentina, respect Africa, and this way maybe we can keep their respect for us.
How idiodic, Nation full of rebels, with no culture what