The A320 that crashed at Congonhas came to TAM from Pacific Airlines (Viet Nam) and had a history of mechanical problems. One hopes that from now on they will buy new as does GOL.

I have never enjoyed or felt comfortable inside any aircraft manufactured by Air Bus. Their planes tend to be relatively small (with possible exception of the recently launched super jumbo, which was not mentioned in the article above), noisy, and lack a certain “savoir-faire” (LOL) which is very surprising for a product manufactured in Europe. In addition, supporting the brief views expressed at the previous entry, the European aircraft appear to be more “accident-prone” than most others…

Instead of placing so extensive orders from Airbus, I feel that TAM should have considered utilizing EMBRAER planes for its domestic flights (in the same way as Jet Blue is planning to do for their future Brazilian airline – scheduled to start operating in the near future), and, the very EXCELLENT Boeing 777 which, in my very modest opinion, is one of the most comfortable and efficient airplanes currently in service.

To finalize this entry on an (extremely) personal & (very) humorous note, simply because AIRBUS happens to be located in Europe, my objections to TAM’s purchase (or against any other purchase to be made by either Brazil or the United States of America) increased considerably – simply because it happens to be the area where Switzerland is located (quoting a certain infamous contributor to this blog – LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH), even though I’m fully aware that Switzerland is not at all involved with Airbus (wise decision). Yet, because the racist country of Switzerland is the place of residence of infamous Brazil-nemesis ch-c (founder of the “let’s hate Brazil for no good reason” club), I have recently (and surprisingly) adopted a certain irrational “anti-European” position (except - OF COURSE – for anything related to the glorious United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland)

United for now, but watch Scotland.

...that Brazilians airlines buy so few WORLD BEST PLANES....that apparently EMBRAER builds !!!!!

A year or so ago, I made the same comments.

One "brilliant" Brazilian answered this was normal due to the different ranges of the planes needed in Brazil.

I replied :

1) To my knowledge the USA are as big as Brazil, and some of their airlines are buying EMBRAER planes, not Brazilian airlines.
2) Not all Boeing and Airbus planes used by brazilian airlines have long range capacity.
3) The Embraer 190 has 4200 kms range, sufficient to cover most of the large cities in the South where most of the travels ocur.
4) Easy Jet one of the European largest airline discounters, have planes with a maximum radius of 4 flying hours. And 4 hours are sufficient to cover most of the Brazil South cities

Wellll....this "brilliant and knowlegable junkie"...NEVER ANSWERED BACK...of course !!!!


Therefore my question remains unanwered, as usual : why are Brazilian airlines NOT buying and trusting Brazilian planes, apparently the world best...for similar ranges planes ?????

As unlikely as it may be, I hate to agree to the Odious, Unmentionable Nemesis of the former Empire of South America"

The surviving Brazilian airlines are unfortunately NOT buying EMBRAER aircraft – an unwise, immature, and disappointing decision, as I truly consider Brazilian planes of surprisingly good quality (specially considering the rather recent emergence of Brazil's technology)

The Brazilian airline sector is currently in disarray, given the regrettable collapse of VARIG (once a fabulous airline), which followed the unfortunate path of its former competitors VASP (which at some point was really excellent), and the less remarkable TRANS BRASIL. Overlooking Brazilian infrastructure should be considered the greatest error of recent Brazilian planners, and it appears to represent the underlying cause for this unfortunate situation with the industry under consideration! As a result, there is currently no major, truly significant airline operating Brazilian flights, thus explaining the prevalence of short range equipment.

Once again, I (hate to agree), EMBRAER planes, particularly the most recent models (likely the one you quoted), could AND should have been considered by the immature (surviving) Brazilian airlines.

Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with Easy Jet. The only European airlines I have utilized are the magnificent British Airways, efficient Lufthansa, and pathetic Air France. Besides, when travelling in Europe, I much prefer to make use of the very efficient, fast, richly-networked, comfortable Railways, thereby emulating my illustrious ancestors’ travels during the fabulous 19th Century...

Concluding, I repeat (with great dismay) my (reluctant) agreement with your conclusion that the Brazilian airlines do NOT know what they are doing, and certainly do know appear to have a clue as to what course they should take – that is to fly EMBRAER short-range equipment!

Now... Let’s not for a second forget, as we bash the Brazilian Airlines, that your pathetic, boring, racist country does not even currently have ANY airline whatsoever, ever since the inefficient Swissair collapsed.

Hopefully, I shall not have to endure the pain of agreeing with you EVER again
- CRY CRY CRY
AUGUSTUS

Hopefully, I shall not have to endure the pain of agreeing with you EVER again
- CRY CRY CRY

Lord Augustus, let me assure you that your hopes are going to be shattered very soon. The worthy adversary of yours is so well informed about our Great Republic that at one point of time, I stared suspecting that he might be one of our self exiled Opposition party leaders! The gentleman knows the potentials and short comings of our country and its citizens, though he tends to high light the short comings of our "Rulers" more frequently and with good reasons!!

Coming back to EMBRAER, I have read Ch.c´s comments as well as that of yours both of which were very objective and highly truthful. His stats about EMBRAER 190 and its potentials can not be disputed at all. I have also had the pleasure of flying in earlier models of this company (especially the Turbo-Props which fly at a lower attitude enabling you to see the country side on a clear and sunny day). Therefore, I am launching some reasons for Gol/TAM NOT deploying short range jets:

1) Boeing/Airbus are offering better prices, payment terms and "Commission" ( ) to the Domestic Airlines.

2) If you read the National newspapers about how cozy our domestic Airlines are with ANAC, you may start discovering several "vested interests" which may not want EMBRAER made airplanes to operate in the national territory ( )

3) ANAC is suppsedly an independent entity, but until recentky, it was filled up members of the "Ruling Party". I don't know if the new management has grasped the urgency of reorganizing our Air Travel Industry (in spite of ever present optimism, I don't think so)

I do not know if you are aware that according to our current aviation laws, in a Domestic airline company, a foreign entity can not hold more than 20% of the shares. If this law is altered, you will see many competition in Brazil and who knows, we will see ourselves flying in EMBRAER 190 more frequently. Not that I mind Boeing 737s.

I thought the reason that the Embraer jets sell better overseas was that items for export are exempt from many taxes that a national buyer would have to pay. Therefore the Brazilian product can´t compete with the imported product, within Brazil.

I thought the reason that the Embraer jets sell better overseas was that items for export are exempt from many taxes that a national buyer would have to pay. Therefore the Brazilian product can´t compete with the imported product, within Brazil.

You have been in our country too long to swallow this, Ric. If the Government really wants to stimulate the products of EMBRAER, they can easily slap hefty import duties on imported aircraft.I think that Ch.c, Augustus and the other fella are trying to say something.

Have you flown EMB 190 and if so your evaluation? btw, Ch.c´s stats and questions are very relevant.

Never flew an EMB 190 but have been in several, brand new being ferried to the states. Not green but already painted in the new owner´s livery.