Brazil - Brazzil Mag - In the Beginning God Created Rio to Hold the Olympics, Says Brazil's Lula in Beijing
Advertisement
  Home arrow Back Issues arrow 2004 arrow August 2004 arrow In the Beginning God Created Rio to Hold the Olympics, Says Brazil's Lula in Beijing Thursday, 04 December 2008 
Main Menu
Home
News
Back Issues
Advertising
Contact Us
Brazil Forum
Magazine
Brazzil Classic
Yellow Pages
Classifieds
Images
BrazzilMag Newsfeed
Custom Search
Amazon Body Care


Mortgages | Mortgages | Remortgages | Mortgage | Loans
-------------
Brazil /Organic personal skin care wholesale / Brazil
--------------
Who's Online
We have 68 guests and 1 member online
Latest News
Statistics
Members: 418
News: 10299
Web Links: 0
User Menu
Your Details
Submit News
Check-In My Items
My Comments
Login Form





Lost Password?
No account yet? Register
Related Items
Contribution
Have you got news?

Do you have news, comment or story on Brazil you want to share with Brazzil? Just send it our way to brazzil@brazzil.com.

 

In the Beginning God Created Rio to Hold the Olympics, Says Brazil's Lula in Beijing PDF Print E-mail
Written by Newsroom   
Sunday, 10 August 2008

Lula meets Brazilian athletes in Beijing Brazilian President, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, said Friday, August 8, in Beijing that Rio de Janeiro's bid for the 2016 Summer Games carries the ultimate seal of approval. He said, "when God made the world he prepared Rio for the Olympic Games."

The Brazilian southeastern city of Rio de Janeiro has twice bid for the Games and was eliminated in the preliminary stages. It's the first time the city has made it to the short list.

The President said, "we have the firm conviction that we will be the country chosen for 2016. I personally am convinced there is no argument against Brazil's Olympic bid".

Lula said it is time for South America to host the Olympics for the first time. "South America not only needs the Olympics, it deserves the Olympics", he said.

He confirmed that if invited he would travel to Copenhagen to push for Rio's candidacy before the IOC vote, the same as Prime Minister Tony Blair successfully lobbied for London's 2012 bid and former Russian President Vladimir Putin when Sochi was bidding for the 2014 Winter Games.

Lula rebuffed suggestions that the Games would be too much of a financial burden for a developing country like Brazil, especially just two years after the World Cup.

He said, "we do not accept the idea of a prejudice that it is too expensive to hold an Olympic Games. We don't have to know how much we will have to spend. We have to know how much we will gain. We should see the Olympic Games as an investment. Brazil deserves this opportunity."

Standing next to Rio's governor, Sérgio Cabral, and Brazil's Sport minister, Orlando Silva, Lula said that Brazil has shown after holding the Pan American games that it is able to stage large sport events.

"I'm sure that some people who came to China a few years ago would say that they did not have the conditions to hold the Olympics. Then you arrive in China and realize the economic change, the change in the city, the change in the structure. And I am convinced that, the way things are going in Brazil, we will be more than ready to stage the 2016 Olympics of 2016," said the president.

Lula's China campaign in favor of Rio de Janeiro has already started. During his meeting with the president of China, Hu Jintao, and the chairman of the National People's Congress, Wu Bangguo, Lula asked for China's support to the Rio candidacy and was optimistic when he left the meeting.

"I left with the feeling that we are going to have the support from China," Lula told journalists. "There is an understanding from both president Hu Jintao and chairman Wu, who is the president of the parliament, that South America never had their own Olympics," he stressed.

Lula refused to risk any bet on how many medals the Brazilian athletes are going to win. According to him, just getting a place to participate in the games is already a victory for the Brazilians who made it to Beijing.

"I told the athletes there in Brazil that when you go to the Olympic Games you have to take into consideration that to get here each one has already given the maximum of himself. To win a gold, silver or bronze medal, is just a consequence. What's important is that every one goes to bed at night with the clear conscience that he has done the best he possibly could."

Jersey Controversy

Brazil won't be wearing its official Nike uniform for the rest of the Olympic Games because it could affect Rio de Janeiro's bid for the 2016 Summer Olympics Games, said the country's soccer confederation Saturday.

According to International Olympic Committee (IOC) rules, nations should not wear confederations' emblems on uniforms during the Olympic Games, and Brazil's Nike jersey has the soccer confederation badge on it, reports the Associated Press.

The confederation said in a statement, "the president of the Brazilian (soccer) confederation, Ricardo Teixeira, accepted the Brazilian Olympic Committee's request that the Olympic team did not wear the official jersey because it would blemish Brazils' bid to host the 2016 Olympics". Brazil will still wear a Nike jersey, but without the confederation's badge.

The statement said Teixeira decided to accept the committee's request to avoid any embarrassment or inconvenience to the city's bid for 2016.

Brazil's players complained Saturday after being told they would play the rest of the games without their traditional badge on their shirts, reports Reuters.

One player said it was "a load of messing around. It's a pain to play without the symbol on the shirt because it imposes respect. We're five times champions of the world and we carry that on our chest. But it's a political matter and something which the players don't need to get involved in."

Mercopress/Bzz

Hits: 2062
Comments (45)Add Comment
Absurd, Embarrassing, and Unacceptable statement
written by AUGUSTUS, August 10, 2008
Although well intended, this latest remark by the unremarkable Brazilian president is not only ridiculous and embarrassing, but also a completely unacceptable & biased statement.

One should attempt to assess one’s rank and symbolism before uttering nonsensical, questionable, unqualified and biased statements, particularly during a State Visit, and specially during a world event witnessed my most other World Leaders.

Using “biblical references” (creation) in reference to trivial issues is biased and displays the absence/lack of a type of sophistication required for the Leader of an Emerging Nation; making a religious based joke to substantiate his mundane agenda, during a ceremony hosted by an (officially) Atheist State is simply unacceptable and exceedingly embarrassing…

This and many of other “simpletons-like” comments, made by the current Brazilian President (whose very "nick" name is objectionable) clearly display the well-publicized limited education, modest origins, and, quite frankly, “lower class background” of the man who sits in Palacio da Alvorada...

Unbelievable!
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
Absurd, Embarrassing, and Unacceptable statement
written by João da Silva, August 10, 2008
Thanks for putting my thoughts in very elegant prose! smilies/wink.gif
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
you tell it AUGUSTUS
written by Forrest Allen Brown, August 10, 2008
to say the money does not matter , that is very small minded of him
where would brasil find the space in rio to build such a building complex .
the air ports could not handle the people .
public transportation would go bust ,
not near enough police and real security to work the games .
food , water, elecrity . hotel rooms , i could see all the motels in RIO filling up with familys

DOES ANY ONE ELSE FIND IN STRANGE THAT
france , brasil , cuba , china , vensula , and the UN have said nothing or very little about russia in georiga
got to hand it to them to choose to invade during the games the old slide of hand
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by PLT, August 10, 2008
Don't you ever get tired of being so endlessly negative, so obscessively against everything that might help Brasil, might bring Brasilians together and might, God forbid (does this reference to the almighty offend you as well?), lead to a better Brasil?

I view the comment by Pres. Lula about China itself as the most important. China used Olympics as a focus for their development efforts and these games motivated the Chinese people to work toward a common goal which, in the end, will improve their lives and the lives of their descendents. These games have brought China into the wold spotlight like never before, and they have changed. Changed for the better. Certainly they have a long ways to go, but which is better - a move in the right direction or a move in the wrong direction? You don't think the same would result in Brasil? Of course not, you don't even want to see Brasil have the chance.

I view the Brasilian effort to secure the 2016 Olympics in Rio as a similar venture as took place in China. One which has the potential to further unite South America, and which will unite Brasilians and instill the pride which obtaining a goal brings to people. This Olympic bid is already shining light where no light has yet shone, and it will illuminate and bring attention to problems in Brasil and thereby help lead to change. Brasil is on the verge of greatness, which is apparently much to your dismay. Certainly Brasil has obstacles to overcome, indluding the embarrassment of having so many corrupt and dishonest politicians. So many living under the control of courrupt police and/or drug and criminally financed gangs. However, believe it or not, progress has been made and is being made.

With regard to Pres Lula himself, well, I have to say "better a Lula than a Bush".

All the best.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by mcv, August 10, 2008
applauses....u could put in a better way!!!that's what I've seeing in this blog for so long from must of brazilians...like joao only knows to suck ch c balls and so on!!this people only have to say negative things form Brazil facing such good news that have being posted in this site!!!
tanks !!
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by mcv, August 10, 2008
please read "u Couldn't put in a better way"
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
Assessing Relevant Needs against the “Lofty Superfluous” // Evaluating dignified & elegant behavior during Official State Visits
written by AUGUSTUS, August 10, 2008
While my original comment was restricted to the "absurdity" of the comments made by Brazil’s "unsophisticated" president, PTL remark expanded the criticism into the overall issue – the actual contents of Lula's inappropriate statement, which I’m consider equally objectionable, given Brazil’s greater needs…

Following the line of your expanded analysis, I would sincerely have expected that a democratic free society (in Brazil) would prioritize its very scarce resources vis-à-vis the actual (screaming) needs of the country's population. In a nation where hunger still exists, illiteracy is rampant and crime is out of control, I’d would consider unrealistic (if not outright criminal) to allocate extremely limited funds and resources for the overwhelming expenditures required for hosting the 2016 Olympic games! Specially because, “at the end of the day” most decisions currently made in Brasilia appear to be designed exclusively for the sake of Brazil’s Image, and unrealistic expectation of becoming a Major World Power “nearly overnight”, regardless of any costs…

Considering that Beijing has wasted over $100,000,000.00 to show the world that China is now a World Power, it would be utterly responsible for Brazil to even consider emulating such an a wise decision, particularly because the two countries have drastically distinct realities not to mention vastly different political systems where such policies are formulated & funded.

Rather, Brazil’s image would be greatly enhanced (and it’s government respected worldwide) if its efforts were focused addressing its uneducated segments of the population, overcoming the infamous disparity of income distribution, implementing a fair land reform, rebuilding (the decaying) national infrastructure, eliminating or reducing the propagation of Shanty Towns, and addressing rampant crime in most major cities (most notably Rio = the intended site of the 2016 Olympics)… Most importantly, addressing the blatant cases of corruption in Brasilia, and refraining from sending the nation’s leading representative on multiple, never ending world tours to launch unrealistic lofty projects while making very embarrassing public statements…
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
joao only sucks beer out of a bottle
written by Forrest Allen Brown, August 10, 2008
your mind is a like a pee in a bucket
to even think brasil could pull it off

where will the money come from ?????????
china has 100 times more the resorces as brasil and a billion more people
and the money well brasil could not even print enough to pay for the bird nest 500.000 million US just for the one field

where would god put it ???????? if lula is so sure rio is the place
at least the air in brasil is a bit cleaner .

also the word going around 1750 people were killed building the complex
74 were put to death for coruption and out right theft of stuff
some 80 thousand people lost there jobs as there buildings were taken by the state to build the places
5400 people lost there homes and were moved out of the city so they could build all the support buildings .
and then the air port total build

so MVC & PLT
unless you own land or a building company
thousands of people will lose every thing to build it
your nonexctance farm subsides .
bolso family .
nuke program .
military build up
road & bridge work would stop
taxes would triple if not to the 10 power


report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
Bush versus Lula - In agreement on that point
written by AUGUSTUS, August 10, 2008
While both leaders are shockingly disqualified for the offices to which they were elected, and while both men appear "simple" and "uneducated", at least I will give Credit to Lula's good intentions (even if ill advised) and forgive his ignorance in light of the hardships involved in any upbringing at the bottom of Brazil’s class structure; whereas George Bush is mostly an incompetent and/or selfish individual who was educated with comfort and privilege at upper level of the American Socio-Economic establishments – there are no excuses for George Bush!

report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by PLT, August 10, 2008
Augustus;

Thank you for your response. I see the point you are getting at, priorities. I agree completely that Brasil has much ground to cover before being considered truly "developed", but certainly there is no ideal path to follow (other than, perhaps, finding massive deposits of high quality petroleum...), and no model to emulate, assuming this is really what Brasilians want. But, I see such things as the Olympics as a means by which to move a step closer. A means which could easily be financed using petroleum revenues, rather than have that money disappear into the bowels of government corruption. It is, after all, Brasilians who tolerate that corruption. What was the campaign slogan, "Ele rouba, mas faz"? Put a few of these clowns behind bars and they won't be laughing any longer. Caccioli? Progress? I also believe that in life, and not just in shopping, that you get what you pay for. Brasilian police should be paid 10 times what they now earn, and be expected to honestly earn every penny of it. This business of tolerating, even encouraging, bribery since "only the guilty pay" is nonesense and only leads to more corruption.

I live in Rio, and have been living here 3 years now after marrying a Brasiliera. The first thing I did to try to "give back" to my new home was to volunteer for the Pan American Games. I was unable to participate due to the untimely death of my father, but it was a valuable lesson for me in seeing why the Olympics should be a priority. I was very impressed by the other volunteers, the committee made an effort to incorporate as many favela residents as possible, which gave them an opportunity and an inroad to training in the tourism industry - which as you know is very important to Rio, and gave them a tremendous feeling of pride for having contributed. Even without actually participating during the Games themeselves, I was moved by the experience. The Olympics are much larger than the Pan was, and will require tens of thousands more people to serve in a myriad of jobs, some volunteer but others paid. These jobs will provide training in everything from security, maintenance, cooking, guiding, interpreting, you name it. I call it opportunity. An opportunity to for those who wish to change, and it is only the individual who can change and only if they wish to. They cannot be forced out of poverty or a life of crime, held at gunpoint in school and told to learn, they and not the government, are responsible for their choices.

Another example using the Pan, crime in Rio dropped significantly during those games. The primary reason, of course, was the huge increase in police presence. But, the budget for the Pan spent on security left many benefits behind, such as all new GPS equipped police cars in Rio (several hundred were also shared with other cities in Brasil since the federal government apparently paid for them). GPS! Now, it is possible to know where police cars are, and where they have been. Brilliant, in my opinion! Also, new computers and other improvements in police equipment and training. All benefits of the Pan and which would be doubled or tripled by hosting the Olympics.

report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by PLT, August 10, 2008
Tourism is a major industry in Brasil, one which is impeded by a need for infrastructure improvements. What better way to motivate such improvements than hosting an Olympics? Airports, trains, bullet-train, subways, highways, bridges, all means of transportation would be analyzed and improved. For the benefit of Brasil and Brasilians. Also creating jobs, as these systems will be used for many years to come.

Where does the money come from? Initially from the State, of course. Sponsors may pay for the games themselves, but the government is on the hook for preparation. And I agree, it is a huge commitment. Yet that is always the case in any enterprise, private or public. You must invest to obtain a return. Invest in people and infrastructure, and gain efficiency and growth. Tourism is a "green" industry, for the most part, and Brasil has the potential for a great deal of growth in that field. The games will come at a time when the offshore oil fields will be online and producing significant revenue. Why not use that source to help finance these badly needed infrastructure improvements which will make hosting the Olympics possible?

The change which comes about from growth is some times difficult for some individuals to accept. I grew up in Seattle, and the family home where I was raised is now beneath a new runway at the airport. Taken from us by the government for the common good of improving the airport. That is the price of growth. Yes, workers may suffer injuries working on necessary construction projects, but that also happens building homes for the poor, or in constructing sewage treatment plants to serve favelas. It is not an argument against the games. Executing those convicted of corruption? Hmmmmm. But Brasil has no capital punishment, only the police in Brasil are allowed to carry out that sentence.

Brasil is making progress. That was the point of my critical comments. Defining progress and the map it uses to reach its destination, and the destination itself, is the issue, I agree it must not leave behind the poor and disadvantaged. But, it is my strong belief that providing opportunities for individuals to better themselves is all government can and should do. After that it is up to the individual. I believe the Olympics would provide opportunities not just for Odebrecht or other major construction firms, but also for the workers.

All the best.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
mcv
written by João da Silva, August 10, 2008
.like joao only knows to suck ch c balls and so on!!


You must have graduated out of FISK or CCA with Summa cum Laude to use such a language, besides being a card holding member of UNE.

No need to "suck Ch.c´s balls" and "so on", because I don't have much from gaining from doing so. On the contrary, you have a lot to profit from being a card holding member of UNE. So keep doing it and also believing in the "Official Stats" being fed to you and your fellow members. After all you are the "future" leaders of Brasil.

Coming back to the topic under discussion: We have a Carioca (Augustus) who is against holding the Olympics in his city of birth and he could be jumping at the opportunity and promoting his city for his personal "gains". But he is not doing it. Why not? Because he is thinking about the "onus" for the "entire nation" and his vision is more macro than your myopic view.

We need more people like Augustus with great vision in power than chest thumping emotional creatures like you. Re-read his comments (which you would find difficult, because of the rich prose he uses) and reflect a bit.

btw, from the previous comments you have made, I thought you were a rational Brazilian. But you did disappoint me by indulging in a personal attack. It does not bother me, though.

All the best in your efforts to bring in the Olympics to Rio in 2016.
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
PLT
written by João da Silva, August 10, 2008
I live in Rio, and have been living here 3 years now after marrying a Brasiliera.


Where are you from?

Tourism is a major industry in Brasil, one which is impeded by a need for infrastructure improvements. What better way to motivate such improvements than hosting an Olympics? Airports, trains, bullet-train, subways, highways, bridges, all means of transportation would be analyzed and improved. For the benefit of Brasil and Brasilians. Also creating jobs, as these systems will be used for many years to come.


Are you aware that the World Cup is going be staged in Brasil in 2014 and there is a bitter in-fighting going on among the politicians of all the states who are trying to build stadiums in the capitals of their respective states?

Where does the money come from? Initially from the State, of course.


No PLT, if the money comes from the "State", I would prefer it comes from the State of RJ as well as the city of Rio. I would hate to see my taxes being increased twice. First to stage the World Cup in 2014 and then again for the Olympics in 2016. Since you have been in this country for only 3 years, you don't know how things work. The government creates a "temporary" tax for a couple of years and make it to last for eternity, all by presidential decrees, fully supported by our "Law Makers". However, if you insist, I suggest you make a large contribution from your family wealth to bring in the Olympics to your beloved city. As well as the World Cup. smilies/cheesy.gif
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by mcv, August 10, 2008
y u knt define the means of critic joao...u knt compare or bring augusto into this matter...I've being reading his comments...it is from his own personality and intelligence....not like yors falowing under ch c path. ch c priority is his own country that nobody brings any comments that could go against it's course!!!
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by mcv, August 10, 2008
in concern about Olympic games plt is 1000% correct
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by mcv, August 10, 2008
that's bring the real critics on game!!! smilies/grin.gif
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
...
written by mcv, August 10, 2008
forrest... u sound more like a "gandula"!! smilies/wink.gif keep doing the good work ...the balls back on game!! smilies/smiley.gif
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0
Addressing the latest remarks by Joao / PVC / mcv
written by AUGUSTUS, August 10, 2008
Joao
Many thanks for the kind words, which are undeserving for I lack the necessary credentials (as previously mentioned elsewhere).
Yet, I wholeheartedly agree with you regarding this particular issue.
Regarding the views express by PVC, since he has been living in Brazil for only 3 years, and one may presume his country of origin to be in the Developed World, perhaps he is not fully aware of the particular intricacies of Brazilian politics, society & history.
I hope you are enjoying your visit to Beijing (assuming you are indeed attending the festivities and I have not misunderstood one of many older entries.
Cheers

PVC
Further to what I have already stated above, I am somehow convinced (at face value) of your noble, well intended views. Yet, you appear to be taking the recent “so-called” huge oil discoveries (which I understand are located in extremely deep, hard to reach & expensive to extract levels) as a “fact”, and thereby presuming that there will be plenty of additional Petro-Dollars (or should I say Petro-Euros) to finance the 2016 Olympics.
Anyhow, resuming the topic of “acceptable credentials”, although Joao is correct when mentioning that I was born and raised in Rio de Janeiro, I do not believe I am fully entitled to opinionate on issues or matters involving the conditions in Rio or even Brazil, since I emigrated several years ago, and have been using the Brazzil blog (along with occasional phone calls to family members) in order to obtain information regarding the latest developments taking place in my country of birth.
Consequently, I fully defer most views regarding the current Brazilian conditions and (hard) reality to individuals with the appropriate experience, such as Joao, who not only is a citizen but also a current resident.

To mcv
Firstly, I must also thank you for your kind words about my “personality and intelligence” – you are most kind
Regarding the points made in your comment to Joao… while I share your lack of understanding to Joao’s attachment to the Swiss blogger, whom I agree tend to be very disagreeable and appears to hate Brazil), I disagree with any unruly criticism of the views and opinions of “others”. Joao (and anyone else) is free to chose his friends and associations, even when do not meet our personal standards… Consequently, if you do not object, I would like to suggest you consider adopting a “more tolerant” approach towards to views expressed by outsiders and, most importantly to consider refraining from the use of “questionable” words and/or expressions when criticizing other people 
Yet, since I suspect you are likely to be young (forgive me in case I’m wrong) and therefore eager to express views and challenge opposing views, I surely can understand occasional “over-reactions… I’m sure you mean no harm whatsoever
Cheers
report abuse
vote down
vote up
Votes: +0